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    I have worked in the IT Industry for over 35 years, with 30 years in the private sector. I ended up as a Consultant working for a Global IT Company before I retired 5 years ago. My employer billed my time at between £1000 and £1400 per day, and in those days I was probably paid as much as a Head Teacher at a poor school.

    BUT I had no life; I lived out of a suitcase, I was away Mon-Fri most weeks, working 10-14 hour days. My 'patch' covered Europe...... with long spells in the USA. I missed my children growing up; at weekends all I wanted to do was relax & unwind, every Sunday evening I could feel the tension rising as the prospect of another week away loomed.

    Yes I was paid very well; I paid plenty of tax too. My family reckoned I would be dead at 55 because of stress, or having fallen asleep at the wheel. I will be 56 this year, with every prospect of living a while longer because of my lifestyle change.

    I consider myself fortunate to have had a long & successful career in IT, but when it comes to enjoying what I am doing I have to say working at my school is the best thing I have done in the last 10 years!

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    Quote Originally Posted by broc View Post
    I consider myself fortunate to have had a long & successful career in IT, but when it comes to enjoying what I am doing I have to say working at my school is the best thing I have done in the last 10 years!
    100% agree with this, Im 29 and have worked in industry in a stressfull job already, then moved into education. Its all about a lifestyle change and having job security, 13 weeks holiday and a far less stressfull life make it totally worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Friez View Post
    If you're directing that to me directly, I have a BSc in Computing and know way too many programming languages including Java, (Visual) BASIC, PHP, PERL, C/C++, ASM and more besides. I've coded games that have been played by huge numbers of people on the Internet yet I work in a School, while I have a great deal of advanced technical skills on paper my status looks like this:

    Single White Male, Graduate Student.

    Status is everything. Go figure.
    I wasn't directing that comment at anyone in particular - i was making the point that money can be made in IT, and people particularly self-employed IT consultants can and do make a lot of money with the right skillset.....

    Just because you know all those programming languages and other skills means jack if you don't have the skills that are in demand and can command a premium. In fact, typically being a programmer is not a lucrative specialism whatever language you program in. That's not a slight on you - and i'm sure you couldn't care less that some oracle financials consultant somewhere is commanding £800 a day despite having probably half the all-round IT knowledge of you're good self - but that's just the reality of the situation. You might think you have the right skillset to command much higher pay, but you don't, infact very few of us do - i know i certainly don't.....

    Like broc i know of consultants who earn £800+ a day, and earn that amount on projects on a daily basis as they are effectively full-time employess in all but status. Others work on a contract basis. There is a lot of travelling and that missed time with you're children you can never get back - but a lot of people would say it's for they're childrens financial security that they are doing that kind of work.

    As I said these days self-employed consultants can conceivably retire within a decade after going it alone having paid off the mortgage and put they're kids through private school, but not everyone can choose that career direction. Job satisfaction and happiness is all very well - but it doesn't always pay the bills, particularly at the current expensive standard of living, and they're something to be said for not being burdened with a large debt for the rest of you're life. No-ones going to hand it you on a plate...you've got to go out there and earn that money and you're certainly not going to get rich if you take the 'easy' option of working in a school or being any other wage slave. It's probably better for work-life balance but not for long-term financial security.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd View Post
    Consultants receive a *lot* of taxpayers money. Much of the BSF is going to consultants, and I know that individual district councils are spending a lot of money (hundreds of thousands) on consultant reports for schemes like working in partnership etc. Anyone with an income over £35k pays 40% tax on earnings over that. I'd happily be in a 40% tax band!
    There are many different types of IT consultants targeting different sectors. Sure public sector specialists are in effect receiving tax payers' money but consultants working in the corporate sector aren't, consultants for instance who work on projects for FTSE 100 companies - and there are a lot of IT consultants working for global brands. It was these i was referring to - sorry, should have clarified that.

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