+ Post New Thread
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 25
General Chat Thread, Car help! Turning over but not starting in General; ...
  1. #1
    Trapper's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Birmingham
    Posts
    1,210
    Thank Post
    74
    Thanked 147 Times in 119 Posts
    Rep Power
    93

    Car help! Turning over but not starting

    My car is currently parked in yonder Tesco car park across the road. After bimbling around 30 miles across Birmingham today I popped in on my way home and now she won't start.

    Mark 1.5 Focus, 1.6 petrol, 52 plate.

    Turns over, clicks, chugs then nothing.

    Doesn't help that I chose to be frugal (D'OH!) and don't have the home start option on my breakdown and Tesco is *just* within 1/4 mile.

    From what I've read it could be:

    * Fuel pump
    * Bogged up fuel filter
    * Spark plugs - fitted somewhat crudely by my father in law 36 months ago

    Any ideas? I've had a gaze at a plug in situ (can't get it out all my tools are at work) and it looks OK, got a whiff of fuel as well.

    I've stopped turning it over in frustration before I kill the battery.

    The fuel is low, as in under 8 litres, but the fuel light is not on and there should be sufficient for another 20 miles. I'm hesitant to get a jerry can as if it has to be scrapped that's another wasted £20.

    So ... any ideas?

    I'm going to let my FIL have a look tomorrow and if not then it's either do a tow to a garage ourselves or sign up with another breakdown company and wait 24 hrs.

    Luckily my in laws have a "spare" old car they are saving for my brother in law to pass his test, so I can at least get to work for the next couple of weeks.
    Last edited by Trapper; 9th August 2014 at 06:00 PM.

  2. #2
    Trapper's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Birmingham
    Posts
    1,210
    Thank Post
    74
    Thanked 147 Times in 119 Posts
    Rep Power
    93
    Update - just put a couple of extra gallons in and no dice.

  3. #3

    unixman_again's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Posts
    756
    Thank Post
    30
    Thanked 151 Times in 114 Posts
    Rep Power
    137
    Why sign up with another breakdown company. Just tow it far enough away to qualify. Generally if a car has been running fine and when you come back to it, it doesn't go, it's either fuel starvation, or flooding. Either way, you need to pop the spark plugs out and have a look. Often, if you leave it overnight, they will magically spring into life when next you try, although if you have discharged the battery, you'll need jumper leads. If it is fuel starvation, clean the fuel filter and give and try again. If it nearly starts, but doesn't quite want to go, a squirt of aerostart usually does the trick.

  4. #4

    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    London
    Posts
    221
    Thank Post
    6
    Thanked 13 Times in 11 Posts
    Rep Power
    17
    Is it actually cranking or is the starter just spinning?

    Coil pack could be a possibility they can be a weak point on the old Focus', has it been running badly?

  5. #5
    Trapper's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Birmingham
    Posts
    1,210
    Thank Post
    74
    Thanked 147 Times in 119 Posts
    Rep Power
    93
    Running fine. Had the damn coil pack replaced same time as the plug.

    Last time the coil went - you knew. Misfiring like crazy. This time - nothing running smooth as always.

    Can't tow now, edict from the mother in law. Can borrow car, if no towing involved. I'd rather have a guaranteed car for a while.

    Going to leave it overnight and see what happens.

  6. #6

    plexer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Norfolk
    Posts
    13,713
    Thank Post
    667
    Thanked 1,636 Times in 1,462 Posts
    Rep Power
    424
    Call breakdown company and pretend you don't know how far from home it is?

    Ben

  7. #7
    Trapper's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Birmingham
    Posts
    1,210
    Thank Post
    74
    Thanked 147 Times in 119 Posts
    Rep Power
    93
    Quote Originally Posted by plexer View Post
    Call breakdown company and pretend you don't know how far from home it is?

    Ben
    Tried that - they get the postcode some how.

  8. #8

    plexer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Norfolk
    Posts
    13,713
    Thank Post
    667
    Thanked 1,636 Times in 1,462 Posts
    Rep Power
    424
    Cancel the cover with them sad sacks then.

    Ben

  9. #9

    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    107
    Thank Post
    11
    Thanked 29 Times in 22 Posts
    Rep Power
    28
    If you call the breakdown provider, they usually let you upgrade on the spot.
    Alternatively, a good mobile mechanic could fix it in the car park cheaper than signing up to a new breakdown company.

  10. #10
    Trapper's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Birmingham
    Posts
    1,210
    Thank Post
    74
    Thanked 147 Times in 119 Posts
    Rep Power
    93
    Tried it this morning and no dice.

    Going back over later to find the fuel pump cut off switch - last gasp attempt at doing it myself. You never know.

  11. #11

    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    London
    Posts
    221
    Thank Post
    6
    Thanked 13 Times in 11 Posts
    Rep Power
    17
    Good shout, check all fuel / ignition fuses, see if you can hear the tank pump running when you put the ignition to position 2 (before cranking). Have you tried giving it just a tiny bit of throttle when cranking? If the idle control is completely blocked it could starve it of air? Just a random idea

  12. #12
    Trapper's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Birmingham
    Posts
    1,210
    Thank Post
    74
    Thanked 147 Times in 119 Posts
    Rep Power
    93
    Fuel cut off - not cut off. Not surprised!

    £20 for a tow to a garage of my choice - decent pricing and good work rather than one of the breakdown companies choice = expensive.

    It has probably worked out cheaper this way than having the correct breakdown cover in the first place!

    Obviously breaking down in a free, open cark park within spitting distance of your house, having access to a "spare" car and it being the summer holidays so I can pop in and out of work at whim does make things much easier!

  13. #13
    cpjitservices's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Hessle
    Posts
    2,493
    Thank Post
    519
    Thanked 290 Times in 266 Posts
    Rep Power
    82
    Check the injectors.... Size 13 Spanner, undo injector one by one and see if fuel squirts everywhere out of all injectors. Have you checked the HT leads, wait till dark, pop bonnet and get someone to crank it whilst your looking at th HT leads.. if they are faulty you'll know as you'll see the spark in the lead and it looks like Blackpool illuminations lol. In failing that you could always try an old fashioned bumpstart... presuming its not the Auto model.

  14. #14
    cpjitservices's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Hessle
    Posts
    2,493
    Thank Post
    519
    Thanked 290 Times in 266 Posts
    Rep Power
    82
    Quote Originally Posted by Trapper View Post
    Tried it this morning and no dice.

    Going back over later to find the fuel pump cut off switch - last gasp attempt at doing it myself. You never know.
    Dont think there is one on the mark 1, 1.5 Focus... it's part of the immobilizer... and thats another thing to check.. the immobilizer isnt causing this is it ? best way you can check is by turning your key till the instrument panel illuminates, listen for a slight hum which means fuel pump is spinning, preferably do this with your spare key (one with the blue transponder chip). Should be a lttle red flashing LED on the dash which should go off when you turn the key in the ignition switch, if it stays on then immobilizer could be stopping the engine starting.
    Last edited by cpjitservices; 11th August 2014 at 08:44 AM.

  15. #15
    Trapper's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Birmingham
    Posts
    1,210
    Thank Post
    74
    Thanked 147 Times in 119 Posts
    Rep Power
    93
    Can't hear the pump, then again I can't remember ever hearing the pump and it is in a noisy car park.

    Got some guys towing it to my local garage some time between now and the end of time, who'll take a look.

    Last time this happened it was the battery - and I do remember that the internal lights and the radio still worked - which surprised me. Could be there's not enough juice to start it.

    In all probability it's the fuel pump that's just gone. Or knowing my luck the fuse that controls the fuel pump and all of this is caused by a 50p bit of metal.

    This annoys me greatly. When people have silly simple problems wrong with their PC I always think why don't they just mess around with one and learn. Same thing with a car. When something goes wrong we really should be able to spend some time figuring it out. With modern cars there isn't much you can break yourself.

    I keep meaning to get a cheap banger, pull it apart and learn how it all works. Then I don't, and I get annoyed with myself when this happens.

  16. Thanks to Trapper from:

    Bradlys (11th August 2014)

SHARE:
+ Post New Thread
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 14
    Last Post: 10th June 2014, 03:10 PM
  2. WDS Services will not start Help Please!!
    By edsa131 in forum Windows Server 2008 R2
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 11th July 2012, 02:21 PM
  3. Car Help - Cold Start Problems
    By Hightower in forum General Chat
    Replies: 32
    Last Post: 20th October 2011, 10:04 AM
  4. Replies: 14
    Last Post: 30th November 2009, 09:59 AM
  5. Replies: 8
    Last Post: 2nd November 2005, 02:46 PM

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •