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General Chat Thread, Cabinet Reshuffle Time! in General; Originally Posted by X-13 Ouch... Against gay rights. For EU integration. Against EU referendum. Against helping the disabled/ill. And Jesus ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by X-13 View Post
    Ouch...

    Against gay rights.
    For EU integration.
    Against EU referendum.
    Against helping the disabled/ill.

    And Jesus H Christ... that tax section. More tax for everyone, except bankers and the rich.


    Also:


    • Voted very strongly for ending financial support for some 16-19 year olds in training and further education
    • Voted very strongly for university tuition fees


    And she's now the education minister?!


    It looks like the majority of her decisions have been to help the rich and punish the poor for being poor. [Can't get full details, it's erroring.]

    All in all... I dislike this woman.
    isnt that pretty much average tory though tbh cant tax bankers or the rich because they are people we know / user to be / will be when they get bored of politics/relateed to etc

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    She's a true blue Tory basically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sted View Post
    isnt that pretty much average tory though tbh cant tax bankers or the rich because they are people we know / user to be / will be when they get bored of politics/relateed to etc
    Yeah... but I don't have to like it.

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    Out with the clowns...in with the clowns

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    I can't read the BBC article about Gove with a straight face. My mind is too dirty. Chief Whip. Dealing with cabinet discipline. Dirty, dirty mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by synaesthesia View Post
    I can't read the BBC article about Gove with a straight face. My mind is too dirty. Chief Whip. Dealing with cabinet discipline. Dirty, dirty mind.
    Haha
    I, for one, am surprised "Chief Whip" is a real position. I thought people were just giving his new position a sarcastic comedy name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garacesh View Post
    Haha
    I, for one, am surprised "Chief Whip" is a real position. I thought people were just giving his new position a sarcastic comedy name.
    It sounds like a Judge Dredd character to me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAM View Post
    Now who replaces him.
    Some one else who thinks they know better, will be willing to change everything to suit "their brilliant ideas" but nothing will change and Schools will be no better.


    I look forward to the next brilliant idea.....

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    What I don't understand about cabinet ministers is that very few of them have ever had any experience in the area of which they have responsibility. They have romantic ideals about what they would like to see happening, but absolutely no understanding of what actually happens in real life.

    Perhaps the next Speaker of the House, should be someone who has never worked in politics.

    PS I've just put a notice about Gove on the staffroom board... and a big smile on our DH's face!

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    Updated the first post with more information.

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    Cabinet Reshuffle Time!

    I'll call it. Better the devil we knew. I doubt this new one will be able to stand up to Gideon.

    That said she does have treasury related experience outside of her headline job...
    Last edited by psydii; 15th July 2014 at 01:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StevieM View Post
    What I don't understand about cabinet ministers is that very few of them have ever had any experience in the area of which they have responsibility. They have romantic ideals about what they would like to see happening, but absolutely no understanding of what actually happens in real life.
    Quite. I find it odd how a Minister of Banana Skins one day is Defence Secretary the next day. I suppose they are talking heads, advised by people under them who know what they're talking about. Patterson was an oddball, as pointed out earlier he rejected the science on climate change - it may be apocryphal, but he refused to read any report that contained the phrase 'climate change'. I notice though, that he totally embraced medical science when he went for his eye operation. He didn't consult his postman or a florist for advice about his eye problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StevieM View Post
    What I don't understand about cabinet ministers is that very few of them have ever had any experience in the area of which they have responsibility. They have romantic ideals about what they would like to see happening, but absolutely no understanding of what actually happens in real life.

    Perhaps the next Speaker of the House, should be someone who has never worked in politics.
    I frequently (and loudly) proclaim this to anyone who'll listen - the education minister (for example) should be someone with trenches experience of the sector, who wants to do the job to improve that area of the public sector. Instead it's used as a post on a CV as every MP competes to become PM. No-one goes into politics to become the Health Minister anymore, they all want the top job, and every cabinet post is a step on that ladder.

    The problem with insisting that cabinet members have experience of their sector is that politicians now don't have experience of anything. They're all career politicians now, instead of people who have retired and gone into politics to give something back. It's a shift that's been buoyed by the false assertion that young voters want young politicians, which (speaking for my own part, as a twenty-something voter) couldn't be further from the truth.

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    What a complete useless bunch they are.
    The people who voted them in must be proud.

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