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General Chat Thread, Royal Family Unions in General; A genuine question here, something that we were discussing this lunch time. If Prince George (3rd in line to British ...
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    Royal Family Unions

    A genuine question here, something that we were discussing this lunch time.

    If Prince George (3rd in line to British Throne) marries Princess Leonor of Spain (next in line to the throne), when both eventually ascend, if they had a child, would said child be King/Queen of BOTH nations, respective territories and domains?

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    They can't marry I don't think.

    On the Princess Diaries, Princess Mia can't marry Prince William as he's inline for his own throne.
    (Okay, not the best evidence, but sounds about right?!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by nephilim View Post
    A genuine question here, something that we were discussing this lunch time.

    If Prince George (3rd in line to British Throne) marries Princess Leonor of Spain (next in line to the throne), when both eventually ascend, if they had a child, would said child be King/Queen of BOTH nations, respective territories and domains?
    I'm going to say yes.

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    see I would think they would be King and Queen of their own countries, but then in their partners countries they would be Prince Consort and Queen Consort respectively. The offspring thereafter would be the leader of a "Royal Union" between the 2 nations

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    Quote Originally Posted by nephilim View Post
    see I would think they would be King and Queen of their own countries, but then in their partners countries they would be Prince Consort and Queen Consort respectively. The offspring thereafter would be the leader of a "Royal Union" between the 2 nations
    I would have thought that. Wasn't that why they were always marrying the royal kids in the Middle Ages? (Or, as many of the 1% think of it, "when the poor knew their place").

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-13 View Post
    I'm going to say yes.
    I'd agree with one provision - Isn't Spain catholic? Under our current rules of accession Princess Leonor of Spain, assuming she's catholic, couldn't become Queen. Possible Princess consort though. Would Prince George be King of Spain or Prince Consort? Do Spain have rules of accession based around religion? If it happened, in theory, their offspring would then become the single head of both nations, no?

    EDIT: great minds think alike (especially when I'm taking too long typing!)
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    No because when they married, one would have to give up their right. The next in line would then become monarch and their offspring would become next in line.

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    Why would they have to give up their right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nephilim View Post
    Why would they have to give up their right?
    Since both countries are constitutional monarchies, would the respective governments not have a say, possibly even offer a referendum, on whether the people of each nation would be happy with a shared monarchy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmcd35 View Post
    Since both countries are constitutional monarchies, would the respective governments not have a say, possibly even offer a referendum, on whether the people of each nation would be happy with a shared monarchy?
    Wouldn't the current monarch have power of veto over any decision?

    Could always have one "invade" and the other "surrender"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-13 View Post
    Wouldn't the current monarch have power of veto over any decision?
    As a constitutional monarchy there are powers the monarch as in theory and powers they have in practice. The last time Royal Assent was refused was in 1708, 7 years after union. I think we'd be a republic inside a week if that happened!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmcd35 View Post
    As a constitutional monarchy there are powers the monarch as in theory and powers they have in practice. The last time Royal Assent was refused was in 1708, 7 years after union. I think we'd be a republic inside a week if that happened!
    And the monarchy powers get less and less, the right to dissolve Parliament is now revoked due to the Fixed Term Parliaments Act 2011. George V nearly refused the Irish Bill in 1925 over the fact he didn't want them to be independent.

    Original question: Would never get married as she is a catholic and I do believe that our monarchy has to marry someone from the Church of England.

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    depends on the line of succession whether it through male or female line also

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    Quote Originally Posted by SovietRussia View Post
    Original question: Would never get married as she is a catholic and I do believe that our monarchy has to marry someone from the Church of England.
    She could renounce her religion. What's Spains rules of accession? Can a non-Catholic hold the Spanish throne?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmcd35 View Post
    She could renounce her religion. What's Spains rules of accession? Can a non-Catholic hold the Spanish throne?
    She could do. Article 57 of the Spanish Constitution states:

    "Those persons with a right to succession to the Throne who marry against the express prohibition of the King and the Cortes Generales, shall be excluded from succession to the Crown, as shall their descendants."

    "In order to exercise the Regency, it is necessary to be Spanish and legally of age."

    Nothing really in it about Religion, I suppose the one saying "be spanish" sort of would block it.

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