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    Paid Peanuts

    For an IT Profession, we are getting paid peanuts for what we do and the knowledge we require.

    I take my car to a dealer, tell the garage the problem i'm having, they will try and look at the problem, and then give the car back and say we can't find any issues with it or they find something but don't know how to fix it, and tell you oh we don't know how to fix it. I wish i could say that in my low paid job. We have to fix it and investigate the issues. The garage on the other hand fob you off, turn a blind eye, and you are paying for their service as well.

    I'm going to look into different profession. IT is not what i thought it was, even though spending 3 years College, and 4 years university studing Computing then come out to a low paid job.

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    Its because your in education. I do private jobs to top up the money. EG got paid 300 for 45 mins work.

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    In my view, business IT pays fairly well.
    Most schools pay between abysmally and nearly reasonably.
    Fortunatly I am at the nearly reasonable end of the spectrum. It's not a great salary, but it's an awful lot better than some I see posted on here.

    I think it is partly historic. The job of a schools IT technical team has changed so much in recent years, expanding at an enourmous rate: We are expected to be experts in most of the software used, its installation and configuration, Networking, Server systems, Admin systems, Music Tech hardware, Cad/Cam (3d printers, laser cutters, plasma cutters, cnc machines), video editing and production; and our salaries have been capped.

    But while there are people willing to work for those salaries, they will not change.
    I'm fairly happy with mine. While I could get more if I went into the private sector, I imagine the job would be far less satisfying.

    To those institutions who pay on the lower end, they will soon learn that paying peanuts gets monkeys, and unlike the private sector, they tend not to move on (maybe lack of progression in the sector)

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    The garage staff are probably paid peanuts too. Their staff are servicing clients that are paying fat fees to their employer, but not passing it on to them... that's why they don't give a stuff. Not diagnising things or failing to fix things doesn't directly impact the operation of the business... although it might kead to customers going elsewhere.

    You are part of an in house service. Not sorting things directly affects the function of the business, i.e. teaching and learning so you are expected to diagnose, fix and preferably be psychic. You work in education which means that money is in short supply. Nobody is paying large amounts of money to the school.

    Even in the private sector, money isn't exactly growing on trees at the moment. However, it is possible to find an employer who values what you do more than the one that you have at the moment. That might be in or out of education, but it doesn't have to be out of IT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FN-GM View Post
    Its because your in education.
    Or you are going to the wrong garage.
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    Joking aside, if you want more, you have to ask for it. Also you have to set out to the staff realistic expectations. IT encompasses much more than just the PC, it covers servers, networks, phones, wireless, audiovisual etc so we have to be a jack of all trades.

    Also, never believe the hype that you will be earning 36k for having a cisco/any other cert. I had CCNA and CCNP (never renewed it) along with server 2008 and windows 7 desktop support MCITP certs, and I barely earned half that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by raimon View Post
    For an IT Profession, we are getting paid peanuts for what we do and the knowledge we require.
    Sorry being a bit hungry and fancy some cashew nuts

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    I get paid on the 'reasonable' side of things. Certainly not in the depressing payscale zone that some are admitting on here.

    Agree with a posting above, the chances are the mechanics are on a poor salary too. But then again they are probably 'fitters' with limited ability when compared to a proper mechanic. Most genuine mechanics are self employed or working for specialist garages.

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    The garage is a main dealer, their mechanics/technicians in theory should be trained up to a very high level to know a lot about a particular brand.
    Yes i agree the mechanics/technicians aren't that well paid either, but as a customer it is what you are being charge is what upsets you. HOW MUCH!!!?? You ain't even fixed it and you charge me that much for diagnostic.

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    To what one calls reasonable is not to another one eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raimon View Post
    The garage is a main dealer, their mechanics/technicians in theory should be trained up to a very high level to know a lot about a particular brand.
    Yes i agree the mechanics/technicians aren't that well paid either, but as a customer it is what you are being charge is what upsets you. HOW MUCH!!!?? You ain't even fixed it and you charge me that much for diagnostic.
    Trouble is cars these days, a bit like IT networks are so overly bloody complicated that even decent time served mechanics struggle at times!! Re main dealers you will be surprised how many 'ship' jobs out to specialist garages because they don't have the skills in house to do things.

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    If yours is an LEA-maintained school, your pay is probably low because it can't be any higher within the Single Status structure. Simples.

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    I've recently made a step away from education to the local authority team, and won't ever look back. I've spent 11 years in schools, starting out as a tech and ending as a network manager, going from 13k to 26k whilst learning as much as I can.

    At some point though, I had to admit to myself that 26k is not enough to raise a family in the way that I want, or for the responsibility as a network manager, and this was compounded by those in similar positions earning more.

    The new job is 33k (to 36k), and is fantastic - I have time to concentrate on projects that I've never had before. Whilst it's not 'private' sector we compete with other companies, so as close as I could get whilst keeping my final salary pension!
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    Quote Originally Posted by raimon View Post
    For an IT Profession, we are getting paid peanuts for what we do and the knowledge we require.
    Oook?...

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    Oook?...

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