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    The basic problem with school IT is that you're not what the organisation sells. The teachers are, and they get decent pay, school holidays and career progression (imagine that!).

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    Agree re pay in education, the pay at private schools tends to be a fair bit better so you could look out there if you want education, bonus there is longer holidays....

    As for the garage, do what I did give the main dealers a shove and go find a local specialist. I have a Citroen and the main dealer is 30 miles away, I was lucky enough to find a local Citroen and Renault specialist who's been trading for 30 years from the same premises and they're only 15 mins from my front door. The best bit is they charge a fraction of main dealer prices and have all the correct gear (Citroen Lexia software for example) to do all the bits.

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    ewww french car

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    Quote Originally Posted by raimon View Post
    Still not enough for the skills you have and the responsibity of the role. Remember when IT in the whole school goes down, and they can't do registration, lessons, admin work, who will they call and who to blame. The phone will not stop ringing. i reckon in a school £40K for manager, £23K for technie, £30K deputy manager.
    That particular job is paid extraordinarily well as it isnt NM, there is no budgetary or management responsibility and there is external support.
    Still thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joanne View Post
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    Don't start that again!

    Pay in private schools is better, like for like job I am paid more than in a state school, in fact I know new NMs in state who are on less than me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by witch View Post
    That particular job is paid extraordinarily well as it isnt NM, there is no budgetary or management responsibility and there is external support.
    Still thinking
    Don't take too long... Or you'll be fighting me for it. [you won't... it's too far. ]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bananas View Post
    Agree re pay in education, the pay at private schools tends to be a fair bit better so you could look out there if you want education, bonus there is longer holidays....

    As for the garage, do what I did give the main dealers a shove and go find a local specialist. I have a Citroen and the main dealer is 30 miles away, I was lucky enough to find a local Citroen and Renault specialist who's been trading for 30 years from the same premises and they're only 15 mins from my front door. The best bit is they charge a fraction of main dealer prices and have all the correct gear (Citroen Lexia software for example) to do all the bits.
    I'm still trying to find that perfect garage, that charges reasonably and still come out with all the screws it went in with. lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joanne View Post
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    Nothing wrong with french cars . I quite liking the DS5, only wish i could afford it atm, still at least £14K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by witch View Post
    That particular job is paid extraordinarily well as it isnt NM, there is no budgetary or management responsibility and there is external support.
    Still thinking
    Isn't the title ICT Systems Manager?

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    Quote Originally Posted by abillybob View Post
    I bring home around 12k a year! It annoys me this works out to be just under £8 per hour. My girlfriend just got a new job at Aldi stacking shelves and earns £8.10 an hour, she doesn't have any qualifications yet and it's a part time job though they have asked her to go full time after college WTF!!!!
    I wonder what the career progression is like for a shelf stacker though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmcd35 View Post
    I wonder what the career progression is like for a shelf stacker though?
    If you've got the drive... pretty good.

    You could possibly make it to management level.

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    Absolutely supermarkets often recruit internally. I started off shelf stacking in my late teens whilst doing A levels. I loved it had a brilliant social life and I worked in almost every dept (no way was I working the fish counter!!!) I was hugely multi-skilled as they called it, in the end I ended up as an EPOS Clerk which is a posh word for being the person who looks after all the checkouts, does the paperwork for price reductions, collates the sales figures stuff like that, was quite good fun. I don't know about other supermarkets but Asda at the time had a specific path for workers to go down the management training route and had I stayed i'd have done it myself. I was often sent out in the store managers company car to do jobs like deliveries to local businesses (this was the mid 90s so no online ordering) and price checking other supermarkets.

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    Don't diss Shelve stacking lol, as it ain't a dead end job. You start at the age of 16 and by 30 you could end up as one of the team leader. Within the same company

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-13 View Post
    If you've got the drive... pretty good.

    You could possibly make it to management level.
    Competition is quite high and pay not so good unless you are lucky enough to break into area management or are managing a large chain store. And then there's the stress/sales pressure from up high. I'd sooner under paid IT support than retail management but then I got close enough to retail management early on in my career to know it's not for me.

    I've seen retail management roles in the local press with salaries in the £20-£25k range. I think if you've got the drive theres more on offer in IT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmcd35 View Post
    I think if you've got the drive theres more on offer in IT.
    Just not Educational IT... Unless you're some sort of consultant.

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    A retail store manager can vary greatly. I use to work at maplin, and i think the store manager is on about £20K, this was 8 years ago. But having said that, he/she doesn't have as big responsibility as network manager in a school when things go wrong. well i don't think so in my eyes.

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