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General Chat Thread, World Cup! in General; Originally Posted by nephilim The trouble is, unlike the German Squad or the Spanish Squad or any other squad, England ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by nephilim View Post
    The trouble is, unlike the German Squad or the Spanish Squad or any other squad, England don't train enough together. The Germans and Spanish do 1 friendly a month in the down time (year after world cup or euros), England doesn't. In the run up, along side the qualifying games, they'll also throw friendlies into the mix. England rarely does.
    We have a fair few friendlies right before a big tournament which imo is way too late because look at the teams he fielded in our last few friendly games - lots of those players sat on the bench in our World Cup games

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    As my beloved Villa have proved, having young and quick players means nothing if they can't pass (or anything else) to the required standard in the first place. I fear this is the case with too many England plays too (albeit playing at a higher level).
    Yeah that's true, Villa did struggle last season I expected them to finish higher than 15th to be honest
    We need to find a style that works for us but once we have that style, it needs to be something diverse so a team can't just set their team out to defend against the way we play and cancel us out the game

    We show sparks every now and then but nowhere near a class 90 minute performance

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    The FA don't put enough money into grass-roots football. Our qualified coaching numbers and infrastructure is laughable compared to the the Dutch, Spanish and German models.

    When I was refereeing, how many times did I hear well-meaning Dads on the touchline screaming at their kids to 'Get rid of it' or to 'Work harder'. Hardly conducive to anything more than long-ball-over-the-top or run-around-like-a-headless-chicken.

    I looked at tickets for the Peru friendly just before all this kicked-off. I'd guess prices were (on average) £60. Times that by 80,000 and you get full-house receipts of £4.8million. I know these figures are very approximate, but they can't be that far from the real thing. Add in the gate receipts from every whipstitch little final and semi final (Autoglass Front Bumper and Headlights or Johnson's Paint Sample or whatever) and the FA start to make quite a bit of money. Where does it all go?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earthling View Post
    Where does it all go?
    25% will go to the stadium owners for use of the stadium (it has to be cleaned, maintained, staff paid etc)
    20% going to the away team coffers to pay for flights or transport etc
    45% then goes to the home team for transport, facilities, payment of officials etc
    Remaining 10% goes to the FA to cover "costs" of the administration of any cards or fines that need to be levied.

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    Have a listen to this...BBC Radio 5 live - In Short, Waddle on England: 'We never ever, ever learn' Hammer on Head of Nail.

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    Don't think whether we play the long ball game or passing matters. Its all about nous, being able to think on your feet and remain cool under pressure. England teams were often out played in the past but got through mainly due to the above. Cameroon and Belgium in 1990, Spain in 1996 immediately spring to mind. Even qualifying for 1990 was no mean feat as we were totally outplayed in Poland but held our nerve and had self belief that we would prevail. England's footballers and recently cricketers have become like robots. And robots win nothing.

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    As I have said before, England is not a place for footballing talent anymore. Look at Nottingham Forest, they wont the CL (or back them the UEFA Cup Winners Cup) more times than any other English team and it was at a time when the League only allowed 3 foreign players. The English players back then were sought after in other nations like Germany, France, Belgium, Holland and Sweden. Now, how many english players play outside of England full time?

    36 (excluding players playing in scotland, where the number goes up to 70ish)...compare this to France who have over 200 players abroad, Spain who have over 150 players abroad, Germany who have over 150 players abroad, Italy who have over 120 players abroad.

    Of the 36 players abroad, only 7 players play for a top 3 side of the respective lead they are in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nephilim View Post
    ...compare this to France who have over 200 players abroad, Spain who have over 150 players abroad, Germany who have over 150 players abroad, Italy who have over 120 players abroad.

    Of the 36 players abroad, only 7 players play for a top 3 side of the respective lead they are in.
    and yet this France team is the worst I've seen in the last 20 years. They'll only progress because they're in a stupendously weak group. Also, what use is strength of the Spanish squad when they don't offer the variety needed to affect the course of a match as substitutes.

    this really is about England not having the right type of players in the starting XI, who can perform a function suited to modern international football. England playing Gerrard is akin to Spain relying on Alonso - they're neither out and out playmakers nor true defensive midfielders, they're style of play which is long range passes and shots outside the box is a luxury few sides can afford. Henderson is a far better fit for his versatility. England should have gone with a 5-3-3, with Johnson and Baines as advanced wingbacks Henderson and Wiltshire in midfield, Barclay behind a front two of Rooney and Sturridge.

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    I agree that France and Spain are both weak this year but they are on a par with England in terms of team strength this year.

    England lacks diversity where as the other nations have the choice of players to pick from

    As for the game just played...wow...Costa Rica could well go far with how they're playing. Beating Italy and Uruguay who were both expected to go through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alttab View Post
    and yet this France team is the worst I've seen in the last 20 years
    Quote Originally Posted by nephilim View Post
    I agree that France and Spain are both weak this year
    I'd take 8 goals in two games quite happily

    I'll be over the water for the knockout rounds - allez les bleus
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    Oh for goodness sake! According to Clive Tyldesley "Many of the Iranian players have their Christian name on their shirt"

    I very much doubt it; I suspect the Iranian team are Muslims to a man!
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    I am sure he means their forename...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by nephilim View Post
    I am sure he means their forename...lol
    I'm sure Mr Tyldesley meant forename too.... using Christian in conjunction with Iran is the kind of thing that starts wars!

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    Have to say...so far...Iran have played a blinding game. They've neutralised Argentina perfectly.

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    The Iranians have never had so many fans around the world. Sadly, Argentina (Messi) has just scored. Iran don't deserve to lose
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    Agreed. They've played very very well and can hold their heads high. Their striker has been amazing as well...Deserved one of his attempts at least.



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