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    If you can wait until the weekend, I'll post the computer parts I have for sale in the classifieds forum.

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    Is the 650D = air cooling and the 750D = water cooling
    You can almost always do both. AIO water coolers come in many different sizes, but all of them will be designed to fit in the 120mm or dual 120mm fan mounts at the top or rear of the case depending upon the size of the cooler.

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    a good way to get pricing and what not is a System Build - PCPartPicker it allows you to adjust for country and then pick parts within your budget specific for your build. Best prices 95% of the time as well.


    This is with the parts already selected that you won. Now it has compatability with your mobo so just find something in your price range for cpu,ram,hdd or ssd, and monitor http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/MJ6ndC

    Also when it comes to screens anything AOC is going to be sufficient and cheap. Plus they have great customer service. My monitors were out of warranty by 2 months and the power bricks went out on them from a power surge. They replaced them free of charge no questions asked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bloodtaker View Post
    a good way to get pricing and what not is a System Build - PCPartPicker it allows you to adjust for country and then pick parts within your budget specific for your build. Best prices 95% of the time as well.


    This is with the parts already selected that you won. Now it has compatability with your mobo so just find something in your price range for cpu,ram,hdd or ssd, and monitor http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/MJ6ndC

    Also when it comes to screens anything AOC is going to be sufficient and cheap. Plus they have great customer service. My monitors were out of warranty by 2 months and the power bricks went out on them from a power surge. They replaced them free of charge no questions asked.
    Where did you find my motherboard as I cant find it listed ??

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    "http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-sabertoothz97"

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    Intel Core i5-4690, Asus GeForce GTX 760 (2-Way SLI), Thermaltake VL80001W2Z - System Build - PCPartPicker < this is what I would build from that site on a reasonable budget...take off the costs from your mobo, PSU and GFX card obviously.

    No HDD included however as that is ALWAYS down to personal choice.
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    Won a kit guru competition however

    Quote Originally Posted by nephilim View Post
    Intel Core i5-4690, Asus GeForce GTX 760 (2-Way SLI), Thermaltake VL80001W2Z - System Build - PCPartPicker < this is what I would build from that site on a reasonable budget...take off the costs from your mobo, PSU and GFX card obviously.

    No HDD included however as that is ALWAYS down to personal choice.
    Why the 4690 ??
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    At only a fiver more than the 4670 it's worth it on that alone. Also performance wise it's decent. You could go higher, you could go lower, but that is what I would take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nephilim View Post
    At only a fiver more than the 4670 it's worth it on that alone. Also performance wise it's decent. You could go higher, you could go lower, but that is what I would take.
    Think the 4690 is about £170 vs the 4770k i7 @ £235 so about £65 extra

    So if im gonna spend £170 I might as well just get the i7

    Am thinking i will leave the cpu till last and buy the other parts first

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    Quote Originally Posted by mac_shinobi View Post
    So if I'm gonna spend £170 I might as well just get the i7
    If you're going to spend £235 for the i7-4770k, you might as well pay another £27 for the i7-4790K.

    When looking at single GPU 1080p gaming benchmarks, there isn't actually much of a difference between a Core i3, i5 and i7. The money saved by not getting a top-of-the-range Intel CPU would surely be better spent on other components and/or reducing the time it takes to build the PC?

    @nephilim's suggestion is good. Get the Core i5-4690 (£160) if you are not planning on overclocking, or the Core i5-4690K (£183) if you are.


    The Intel Haswell Refresh Review: Core i7-4790, i5-4690 and i3-4360 Tested « AnandTech





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    Won a kit guru competition however

    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur View Post
    If you're going to spend £235 for the i7-4770k, you might as well pay another £27 for the i7-4790K.

    When looking at single GPU 1080p gaming benchmarks, there isn't actually much of a difference between a Core i3, i5 and i7. The money saved by not getting a top-of-the-range Intel CPU would surely be better spent on other components and/or reducing the time it takes to build the PC?

    @nephilim's suggestion is good. Get the Core i5-4690 (£160) if you are not planning on overclocking, or the Core i5-4690K (£183) if you are.


    The Intel Haswell Refresh Review: Core i7-4790, i5-4690 and i3-4360 Tested « AnandTech





    Which cpu would be better so I can learn more about server os, exchange , powershell or maybe even hyper v ( on server 2008 or 2012 ) etc etc using VM's ie virtual
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    Basically gonna use it for that , video transcoding ie handbrake to convert between formats and gaming

    Thinking the 4690K for £183 as that seems to perform similar to the i7 and is a bit cheaper and can be OC'ed a bit

    Do I need to buy any screws / seperators etc to screw the psu and mobo into the case or what exactly ?

    Gonna go for the 750D obsidian , seeing as I will buy one item at a time, will get the cpu last
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    Are there any LGA 1150 Xeons and how do they perform vs the i5 or i7??

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    I think there are xeons but I wouldn't use them for a gaming or home pc. I'd put them to use for a server.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mac_shinobi View Post
    Which CPU would be better so I can learn more about server os, exchange, powershell or maybe even Hyper-V (on Server 2008 or 2012) etc.
    The Core i5-4690K will be fine for those tasks. Many EduGeek's manage with a lot less (like first gen HP Microservers for example).

    Btw, Windows 8.1 Pro includes Hyper-V if you wanted to use that. Just go to 'Programs and Features' to install it.



    Quote Originally Posted by mac_shinobi View Post
    Basically gonna use it for that, video transcoding i.e. handbrake to convert between formats and gaming
    An i7 will be faster than an i5 at compressing video, but realistically would you be doing enough transcoding to justify the added expense?

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    Do I need to buy any screws / separators etc to screw the psu and mobo into the case or what exactly?
    Nope. Everything you need will come in the case and PSU boxes.

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    Gonna go for the 750D obsidian, seeing as I will buy one item at a time, will get the cpu last
    Just an idea, but have you considered buying all of the parts at once (after you have saved up the money)? The reason being that if one of your parts is DOA or faulty - like the SSD, HDD or RAM, it will be too late to get a full refund from the supplier since too much time will have passed from when you received the item. Obviously you'll still be able to get a like-for-like replacement for faulty parts, but if you want to buy something completely different you'll probably be SOL.

    The other benefit is that the parts you buy each month won't slowly become obsolete and/or cheaper while you wait for the CPU.

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    Are there any LGA 1150 Xeons and how do they perform vs the i5 or i7??
    The Xeon E3 series processors are LGA 1150. The performance difference between the equivalent i5 or i7 will be very small (with the Xeon being slower) and you won't be able to overclock a Xeon. As @nephilim said, it's not worth it.

    The closest Xeon equivalent of a Core i5-4690 would be the E3-1226 v3.

    http://ark.intel.com/compare/80917,75047,80810
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    Saving and getting the parts at once is a good suggestion so will have to do that. Not a lot but I don't mind waiting 10 mins or more to do those kind of tasks

    Hopefully in a couple of years the cpu's will go down in price

    Thank you @Arthur and @nephilim

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    Well the graphics card, mobo and psu are fantastic and should last easily 5 years or more for the usage you've described. How much are you able to put away? Also remember prices have fluctuations so what is good now might not be good in 6 months in terms of price, however as tech progresses the cost for 'outdated' tech gets cheaper.

    Thankfully in your circumstances you have a great base to work from!

    RAM wise if I upgrade mine anytime soon you can have a 4gb stick for half the current cost :-)

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