Here's an example of why I find iPads trying
Year 7s needed an app for a lesson, okay it should've been requested earlier to give us more time - but you would think it would be as simple as downloading the (free) app and pushing it out to those devices *except* they are under 13 and don't have itunes accounts, so they have to bring them individually to us for apps to be installed - this caused disruption to the lesson. Okay with better planning this could've been avoided but it's so frustrating.
I have a bank of 16 iPads the RE teacher managed for a year os so then left in July last year. It took 7 months before they asked for help, to which I reset them all back to factory settings and updated them. Students had been foolish with them, using the camera and changing the backgrounds etc. Once even accessed websites it shouldnt.... which led me on to how they did it.
They then decided to buy 35 using another budget, mainly for English for them to do their reading test on. I got this set up using the Apple configurator and have locked them down to Safari only. Why you say, because there is no MDM solution that allows you to configure an iPad how you want. You cant stop them "hot Spotting" to their own phones, you cant lock down everything how you can in a windows environment.
The 35 iPads have been ready since the Easter Holidays.... still not handed over cos they have possibly forgotten about them!
It's a lot of money though just to perform an English test, I noticed here there are a lot of Netbooks scattered around the School and now they are sitting in classrooms, cupboards, cabinets and barely being touched. It's a lot of money for devices just to sit there and not after 5 years but after 2. I am in the process of working out exactly how much money this School has spent in regards to mobile devices and I'm not including our man hours.
The costs involved are staggering considering the main reason they walked away from PCs is cost and space. We all know that PCs can be done tidy, cost effective and don't require a ton of space. When I have finished my video editing suite Staff and especially those pro mobile devices Staff are going to be shocked at how much I spent to get a classroom setup. Not only setup but looking impressive with very limited space. My aim is to make this look like a Mac Suite as well.
Don't get me wrong I can see the benefit of Mobile devices, we are going tablets after all but if it doesn't work out well enough I won't be afraid to say it to SLT.
APMerry (5th June 2014)
Why does it have to be [iOS specific app], you ask.
"...because that's what we're using."
Degree educated and can't do better than "we're using X, because we're using X".
And yes, I've literally had people say things like that.
SovietRussia (6th June 2014)
whilst i do agree with this, Meraki MDM is pretty decent and i have few issues with it - however i have light speed coming in this afternoon to have a chat about their offering as it looks a lot better and suited to education environments.
oh, i also wish apple would move away from apple accounts as the authentication for these devices i know this works well for teachers/adults but i am not creating 300 email accounts for children(primary) just to please you!
Last edited by DGardiner; 5th June 2014 at 01:36 PM.
You buy a new windows computer and you can just whack it on the network. Network drives, remote management of software/users. No fuss.
You buy an iPad and you can't. Not without paying for a MDM solution.
Both iPads and Windows computers have paid and free software.
iPads 'just work' which is complete rubbish and because of that all these costs are not put forward at all to begin with. Also you expect a tool to be able to do its job at least a little, Apples MDM is junk and can barely make a dent in the configurability anyway even if it does work that one day or so.
You also don't need to go and buy a bunch of very specific hardware then layer on more and more management just to get the basics. You get Windows Server and with AD it manages Windows clients, if it does not do something you want it to you can script it. Apple is different, like a Porche dealer, every little thing is extra and if your really lucky they will charge you double for a version with all the features stripped out that's 'cooler'.
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