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General Chat Thread, Anyone remember these ? in General; Originally Posted by CAM They are still going and actually post quite regularly in the MIS Forum on here which ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by CAM View Post
    They are still going and actually post quite regularly in the MIS Forum on here which could make this thread somewhat awkward...
    Lets make it more awkward

    Calling @Bromcom-PR & @GraemeBC

    Because I am a wind up merchant deep down

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    Yes we are still here and yes the old folders are a significant blast from the significant past.
    However I would like to remind everyone that most old tech looks clunky and ridiculous when viewed with modern spectacles
    80's "mobile" phones for instance.

    My personal favourite folder is the model that came with an alphabet order keyboard.
    We have a small display cabinet in the office with a selection of the old models in.

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    Bugger my apologies @JohnCondon should have mentioned you too.

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    Without punctuation that doesn't sound like an apology :P

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    John I literally just laughed out loud for a full 30 seconds at that! Brightened my day no end!

    Hats off to you sir, and of course it is an apology

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    Hehe Bromcom Computers Plc - vPDA and Pocket PC

    But now they do even more shiny ones

    Bromcom Computers Plc - Devices

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    Nostalgia: It isn't what it used to be.

    Link: Museum of Obsolete Objects - YouTube

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpjitservices View Post
    You had laptops ? We had this horrible grey thing with a green screen..... They were horrible... It was like a tablet type design with loads of buttons.
    we had those. eventually we ditched them for laptops and sims attendance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveP View Post
    Nostalgia: It isn't what it used to be.

    Link: Museum of Obsolete Objects - YouTube
    Why on earth is the mouse on that list...Still very much in usage world wide.

    Couple of points I think need to be made on the original subject matter.
    @plexer, In fear of some kind of automated Google search powered litigation from Apple I feel I must clarify that we do not "produce" iPads, iPhones or any other kind of tablet device . Those days of actually producing thee devices ourselves are past.
    @browolf, You might be surprised to hear that up until last year (March I think) we still had some customers using older folder devices. That's a functional life span of over 12 years without the need for an upgrade. Let's see a modern smartphone do that :P

    and finally, in defence of a robust and loyal range of hardware. These were devices designed in the 90's, to use wireless communication before omnipresent WiFi (hence the RTU's that still remain tucked into the corner of classrooms across the country) and all of this with the attendance interface written to talk to a VERY early version of SIMS (and our own product) well before the creation of the modern SIMS API.

    and before anyone mentions any difficulty they remember in using them....
    Try supporting the software to run the framework on over 800 schools, over a 14,400 baud modem using a Multi User DOS interface layer with 6 virtual screens (in DOS remember) using keyboard short-cuts and no Mouse!!

    oh and for any who remember the comms software that ran the RTU network was called SERCOM (also SERCOL, SERHAN it had multiple versions). Which allowed us to remotely manage all those RTU's (especially useful when electrical storms would hit and they needed to be reset).

    but we've moved FAR down the path from those halcyon days of yore!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GREED View Post
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    Calling @Bromcom-PR & @GraemeBC

    Because I am a wind up merchant deep down


    Thank you @GREED.

    We only want to correct, qualify some of the comments made so far - as follows:

    Bromcom 'grey' folders were invented in 1992. It was covered in December 1992as invention in the Times new paper dedicating a half-page and was on BBC Tomorrow World's TV show in January 1993. Cost was £245 each, batteries lasted 6 months and transmission range was very similar to WiFi however speed much slower. Because packets sent/received were miniscule (say under 8Kbyte), with good wireless coverage a class list was downloaded within 1-2 minutes. We wouldn't be surprised if some will say it took longer than this but that is all to do with coverage of wireless network and make up of the building - just as one can have coverage difficulties with WiFi today.

    The 'grey folders' did evolve into:

    · QWERTY versions circa 1994
    · A5 size circa 1996
    · WiFi versions early 2000
    · Finally touch colour screen with Microsoft Windows CE in circa 2005

    'Software version' was known as “WinFolder” that run on any laptops and PCs as a 'client software'. This was a small an EXE (as today's 'apps' concept) and which only needed TCP/IP connection. "WinFolder was introduced late1990s, was very popular and was replaced with web version called “WebFolder”. WebFolder is still widely used today as a 'stand alone' product and also formed part of today’s Bromcom Cloud MIS.

    Anyone referencing ‘grey folder’ should also be referring to ‘DOS’ bases TEXT screen MIS software of 1990s to 2003/4 and in fact at that time contemporary and competing product ‘OMR’– yes paper based, Optical Mark Readers! I am sure some OMRs will be still in use.

    We hope the above is read as interesting history and not leveled at anyone.
    Last edited by Bromcom-PR; 14th May 2014 at 09:23 PM.

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    Ooooh multi user DOS, I remember supporting Real/32 awesome OS

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    What a thread, didnt think it'd be this popular!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by cpjitservices View Post
    What a thread, didnt think it'd be this popular!!

    Doesn't that kinda say something about the protagonist?

    I'm just kidding Ali ( @Bromcom-PR), all good fun
    Last edited by GREED; 15th May 2014 at 10:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bromcom-PR View Post


    Thank you @GREED.

    We only want to correct, qualify some of the comments made so far - as follows:

    Bromcom 'grey' folders were invented in 1992. It was covered in December 1992as invention in the Times new paper dedicating a half-page and was on BBC Tomorrow World's TV show in January 1993. Cost was £245 each, batteries lasted 6 months and transmission range was very similar to WiFi however speed much slower. Because packets sent/received were miniscule (say under 8Kbyte), with good wireless coverage a class list was downloaded within 1-2 minutes. We wouldn't be surprised if some will say it took longer than this but that is all to do with coverage of wireless network and make up of the building - just as one can have coverage difficulties with WiFi today.

    The 'grey folders' did evolve into:

    · QWERTY versions circa 1994
    · A5 size circa 1996
    · WiFi versions early 2000
    · Finally touch colour screen with Microsoft Windows CE in circa 2005

    'Software version' was known as “WinFolder” that run on any laptops and PCs as a 'client software'. This was a small an EXE (as today's 'apps' concept) and which only needed TCP/IP connection. "WinFolder was introduced late1990s, was very popular and was replaced with web version called “WebFolder”. WebFolder is still widely used today as a 'stand alone' product and also formed part of today’s Bromcom Cloud MIS.

    Anyone referencing ‘grey folder’ should also be referring to ‘DOS’ bases TEXT screen MIS software of 1990s to 2003/4 and in fact at that time contemporary and competing product ‘OMR’– yes paper based, Optical Mark Readers! I am sure some OMRs will be still in use.

    We hope the above is read as interesting history and not leveled at anyone.
    Really interesting history Ali thank you for that. It's good to see the evolvement of a company and see what things you have influenced in the market!

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    I must admit I'd never seen those 'grey folders' before but I did buy Webfolder and MCAS for a large secondary school I worked in Essex and the teachers were so grateful that they could access the MIS anytime, anywhere! They hadn't been able to do that before.

    With MCAS we saw in increase in parental engagement as they were able to easily reset their passwords, something that was very problematic with the previous SLG system they had experienced.

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