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    Hi all,

    I'll be starting at a small school soon to sort out the mess that County left them with (standalone machines, no internet filtering, broken shared drives, broken printing, one wireless ap with WEP [wonder how many people are enjoying that free internet, grr], dodgy internet, gah).

    One of the first things I'll be doing will be getting a basic domain set up and all machines joined (or upgraded to versions that can, since some are still on home versions of Windows), but I'd like some advice on the OU structure to use. What I'd think to do is below, but I'd like to see what other people do and what your opinions on this are, since I'm generally pretty awful at organizing.
    Cheers.

    Code:
    -School Name
    --Students
    ---Intake year x
    ----Johnny Test (username: testj)
    ---Leavers
    ----Intake year x
    --Staff
    ---Teaching
    ----Joe Bloggs, Teacher of x (username: bloggsj)
    ---Non-teaching
    ---Admin
    --Workstations
    ---Laptops (not sure if it's worth differentiating between teacher and student here?)
    ---Desktops
    ---Admin

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    Pretty much similar to mine, however I split the PCs up into curriculum groups too, easier for GPO etc.

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    Pertty much the same but we split the computer right down to locations, so an OU for department then an OU for each room in that deparment

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    I would always split pupil machines from teacher machines, then depending on numbers, split by area / room / laptop trolley if needed.

    also for pupil usernames, consider something like (2DigitIntakeYear)(Surname)(Initial) it makes it easier to identify where the pupil is in AD from their username and cuts down on duplicates.
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    Again, pretty similar. I have rooms/netbook trolleys etc split off as necessary and teacher laptops and SEN computers as a separate group as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_Jones View Post
    I would always split pupil machines from teacher machine
    I see this done a lot but never really understood why pupil machines and teacher machines need to be treated any differently? They run the same stuff as the pupil machines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrangeOpossum View Post
    I see this done a lot but never really understood why pupil machines and teacher machines need to be treated any differently? They run the same stuff as the pupil machines.
    Some sites we do, some we don't, depending on how we're deploying software etc Things like whiteboard software etc etc, we only deploy to teachers blahblah.

    Steve

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    Our structure is fairly similar but we do split pupil and teacher laptops as they receive some different software which is deployed through GPO.

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    We split PCs into Admin and Curriculum, and then sub-OU by room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrangeOpossum View Post
    I see this done a lot but never really understood why pupil machines and teacher machines need to be treated any differently? They run the same stuff as the pupil machines.
    I guess you could do it as future proofing. You may not have any need now but what about down the line and will it be a major hassle shifting things if you don't do it at the start. As long as they are under a single OU higher you can treat them the same.

    The only additional OU I had was for Groups. Just as a handy place to store them more than anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    We split PCs into Admin and Curriculum, and then sub-OU by room.
    We do similar, but some ICT suites into further sub-OUs for students PCs and teacher PCs for the sake of LanSchool.

    Yours seems sensible yeah.

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    +1 for a groups ou to keep all user groups in a sub uo under the school site, always do that. Helps keep it tidy.

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    I tend to go for something a bit more granular..
    Code:
    domain
    ...site name
    ......Computers
    .........Staff
    ............<admin>
    ............<classroom>
    ...............<by location>
    ............<laptops>
    ................<by location>
    .........Pupils
    ............<by location>
    ......Users
    .........Staff
    ............Admin
    ............Teaching
    ................<by subject>
    .........Students
    .............<by year group>
    ......Groups
    .........Security
    .........Email
    ......Network
    .........Computers
    .........Servers
    .........Users
    .........Groups
    ......Terminal Servers
    This allows better targeting of GPO's. I tend to use 4 types of GPO - Security, Internet, Software Install, Printers.

    So I can set a Printer GPO at the Computers/Staff level so all teacher get the staffroom printer. Or an Internet GPO at Users/Students/Year 7 so they get more restrictions. Or whatever.

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    @tmncd35 how did you create OU's within Users and Computers? Does it cause you any issues?

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    Sorry for the confusion. At the domain level (same level as the Users and Computers you are refering to) I have single OU that is the name of the school. I then have all other OU's within that. So... Domain/School/Computers/Students not Domain/Computers/Students.

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