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    Surely it would be best, initially, to head for a sail boat and get to the remotest set of islands you could?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil-Millgate View Post
    Oh no you wont, not unless you have a pre 1920s car....
    My tech is set with vehicles. He drives a Piaggio APE, has a Lada Niva, access to a Fiat 126 (built in Poland!), and probably others... So it doesn't have to be 1920s. Just, err, low-tech.

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    Remember, transport isn't out...just electronics.

    Steam trains would still run, so would sail boats. Just means things would take longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    My tech is set with vehicles. He drives a Piaggio APE, has a Lada Niva, access to a Fiat 126 (built in Poland!), and probably others... So it doesn't have to be 1920s. Just, err, low-tech.
    Lada Niva has electronic ignition though, plus they all have batteries which power various necessities. You would need a non battery vehicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nephilim View Post
    A solar EMP could easily do it, never mind a nuke.
    The once in 500,000,000,000 years solar flair? (or twice in 40 years in this scenario)... My answers still the same. Hope it's a localised problem and head off to mainland Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil-Millgate View Post
    Lada Niva has electronic ignition though, plus they all have batteries which power various necessities. You would need a non battery vehicle.
    Nah, a lead acid battery would be fine. And an old Niva doesn't have electronic ignition...

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    vehicles built in the 1800s-1920s used a crank to get things going, beyond that they used batteries of sorts. Remember, you CAN start diesel engines without a battery, its just a hassle.

    *edit*

    It has to be the older flywheel type engines not the newer injection ones.
    Last edited by nephilim; 17th March 2014 at 04:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nephilim View Post
    vehicles built in the 1800s-1920s used a crank to get things going, beyond that they used batteries of sorts. Remember, you CAN start diesel engines without a battery, its just a hassle.
    Its nigh on impossible on modern direct injections.

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    Damn you Neph and your sneaky edit.

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    I did edit my post Neil

    Also, I am glad this post has people thinking!

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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    A few key things I'd look for, longer term:

    Wood - fuel for fire, also to turn into charcoal for water filtering.
    Salt - Preservative for meats, necessary to survive also
    Fire starting equipment - flint and steel ideal
    Food - its everywhere really, but we're very fussy when its in abundance.

    To be honest, individually you've not got a huge chance of survival if society collapses. What's more likely is small groups form which can survive much easier.
    And turn the above into a camping & Fishing trip , trout / Salmon and or sea fishing, can use the wood / fire starting equipment etc to make a bbq ( with other food sources ) and for heat as well. Although would possibly want to do this in warmer climates ie abroad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nephilim View Post
    sail boats.
    AWWWW YEAH!

    Pirate time.

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    i would carry on blacksmithing and start hunting with my non machinary weapons that i have in the house Bow, cross bow, snairs(for the ass rats), and my dogs.

    oh an if i got desprate enoth i would make a flying machine from human power i would call it the flying bush and it would look like a pig :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-13 View Post
    AWWWW YEAH!

    Pirate time.
    YAR HAR FIDDLE DE DEE
    BEING A PIRATE IS ALRIGHT TO ME
    DO WHAT YOU WANT 'CAUSE A PIRATE IS FREE
    YOU ARE A PIRATE

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    Quote Originally Posted by nephilim View Post
    A solar EMP could easily do it, never mind a nuke.

    Nasa have seen solar flares hit mars, with the ferocity that would destroy all electronics on earth (only once, back in the 70s I think). Now granted, this was 40 years ago or so, and chances of it happening are slim, but it could well happen.
    Nah, they'd knock functioning things out but wouldn't tough stuff that's turned off. It's not your typical EMP as such. And I like to think we'd have plenty of warning about that. Point is, a global knockout is such an unlikely event. Nuclear detonations will eventually ionise the atmosphere at their detonation point effectively creating an insulator againt further blasts, the solar storm, is A)unlikely and B) not the same kind of pule. We'd just siwtch off for a bit.



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