General Chat Thread, Survival in General; Haha! Sorry. As you were.
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17th March 2014, 04:17 PM #46
Haha! Sorry. As you were.
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17th March 2014, 04:19 PM #47
EMP huh? I'm guessing nuclear war in which case all bets are off regarding caution of civilian casualties. Watch Threads, it shows Sheffield getting nuked.
But yeah...nukes will land on these targets first:
- Infrastructure (Water/Power/Telecommunications)
- Chemical Production
- Metal Production / Refinement
- Defence Systems / Bases
This will cripple the economy. They may even hit food production. Once the country is thrown into disarray another round will hit major population hubs such as city centres if they haven't already. You live anywhere near these sites you won't have survived. But what if you survive the explosions, collapsed buildings and fires being handled by a crippled fire service and army?
We take into account that the air raid sirens have been removed, these include not only initial warnings for "Air Raid/All Clear" but the pulses issued for approaching fallout. People are also too stupid to know that isn't snow falling outside their house but radioactive debris and likely go trudging through it or playing in it. The fallout will then be brought back inside, one speck on your exposed skin will kill. Nobody will have a stock of non-perishable food and water, a safe room or even know to tie up dead bodies in cling film tightly and move them to another room. Neither would they know to remain indoors until all clear is sounded (which it won't be, no sirens) or wait at least 24-48 hours before even thinking of going outside. If your house is even standing.
And after that? The ground invasion may have started, conventional bombing and all out war on ruined streets making Chernobyl look like Butlins on a good day. Have fun surviving that.
17th March 2014, 04:19 PM #48
At least we know what goes on in @Little-Miss's mind.. Whether we want to, or not
Thanks to Garacesh from:
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17th March 2014, 04:19 PM #49
...did anyone notice?
Originally Posted by CAM
17th March 2014, 04:22 PM #50
Well If Sheffield got nuked I wouldn't have to worry about what I would do, aside from being vapuorised of course
17th March 2014, 04:25 PM #51
There was an estimated £6 in damages.
Originally Posted by Domino
17th March 2014, 04:29 PM #52
Originally Posted by X-13
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17th March 2014, 04:29 PM #53
Just try and remember to stand in a great pose for when we find your shadow!
Originally Posted by HaleStorm
17th March 2014, 04:29 PM #54
So how localised is this lack of electricity problem then? Are we talking something that manages to take out all power world wide? What can even do that without wiping out all life in the process? Once in 500,000,000,000 years solar flair? Then, if that's the case, how would I know? So, even if it's not, I'd assume it's localised. Which means, I think, my actions would be....
Turn up at work, no power, school shut, go home.
Next day - try work again.
Think somethings a bit fishy, drive to family in a town 30 miles away.
Realise they have the same problem - drive to London.
Mmm, not Internet in the UK then?
Channel Tunnel and off to the continent. Become a hobo wandering around Eurasia until I stumble upon electricity and Internet. North Korea?
17th March 2014, 04:31 PM #55
Supposedly, nuclear explosions in the upper atmosphere could do it. The radiation would fall down but would dissipate relatively quickly as it would spread over a large area, rather than the concentrated dose of a ground level detonation (IIRC from some show or other).
17th March 2014, 04:32 PM #56
OK, lets take for example - electricity is done, your freezer foods are the first ones to go and would require eating quickest, followed by fridge food, then larder and tinned foods.
Salt is cheap enough, but factor in NOWHERE is more than 72 miles from the coast in the UK (Tamworth being furthest away) that is at best a 2 day hike from Tamworth, at worst a week to get to the sea. Nowhere is further than 40 miles from tidal waters (rivers). So getting to a salt giving water body is reasonably easy. Extracting salt from seawater (and making drinkable water) is simple enough, without the use of an osmosis pump or anything. You can sustain yourself quite easily with seawater.
Factor in coastal lands have high proteins - limpets, clams, razer clams, fish, shrimp etc you could survive quite well at the coast
17th March 2014, 04:32 PM #57
Oh no you wont, not unless you have a pre 1920s car....
Originally Posted by tmcd35
17th March 2014, 04:33 PM #58
No doubt it would - but all power world wide? Erm, If there's a planet left after that you kind find me catching three-eyed fish in the black sea...
Originally Posted by localzuk
Last edited by tmcd35; 17th March 2014 at 04:34 PM.
17th March 2014, 04:34 PM #59
I've got a push bike then
Originally Posted by Neil-Millgate
17th March 2014, 04:35 PM #60
A solar EMP could easily do it, never mind a nuke.
Originally Posted by tmcd35
Nasa have seen solar flares hit mars, with the ferocity that would destroy all electronics on earth (only once, back in the 70s I think). Now granted, this was 40 years ago or so, and chances of it happening are slim, but it could well happen.
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