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General Chat Thread, Survival in General; Originally Posted by nephilim You know an EMP would cripple anything electronic, whether its on or off right? Servers are ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by nephilim View Post
    You know an EMP would cripple anything electronic, whether its on or off right?
    Servers are encased in what is effectively a faraday cage.

    They'll be safe.

    Also: Electromagnetic Pulse - EMP Myths - futurescience.com

    There is truth to this recommendation (if there were a way to know that a burst was about to happen). Equipment is more vulnerable if it is operating, because some failure modes involving E1 HEMP trigger the system's energy to damage itself. However, damage can also happen, but not as easily, to systems that are turned off.
    [Taken with a huge grain of salt.]


    In conclusion: An EMP would do [censored] all.

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    I would think positive, at least the help desk is clear.

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    No electricity is an easy one in the short term.

    Check the circuit breakers to put power back on. They've not been tripped. Odd.
    Check your mobile phone and realise you have no signal or mobile internet connection, realise something's wrong. Panic.
    Calm down and check again. Still nothing. Turn it off. It's useless to you right now. Intend to check back later.
    Consult neighbours. Find they have same issues. Assume localised power cut.
    Eat your perishable foods first, fruits and the like. The power might come back on. Might not. Don't open your fridge or freezer until you have to.
    24 hours pass. Still no power. Turn on phone. Still nothing. Attempt to drive/walk elsewhere to see if anywhere else has power. Find nothing. [GET MUGGED. GAME OVER]. Return home.
    Fill bathtub with water. The water supply is likely still clean, but I can't promise it will stay that way. Unfortunately we'd be on limited supplies of water, so bathing wouldn't really be top priority at the time.
    Run out of perishable food. Consider heading to $localSupermarket. They won't have power either. Go anyway and hope.
    Join in with the looting, because you need food. Take cans of food, bottles of water and salt (thanks @edutech4schools for pointing out salt). Ignore non-necessities such as alcohol/tobacco. Consider washing powder, but only if you have the space for it. Consider pharmacies for basic painkillers and other medicines.
    Check mobile phone again. Still no signal or internet. Turn off again.
    Consider self-defence mechanisms. People who have less stuff will probably want your stuff. People who have more stuff will probably want your stuff, too.
    Start collecting any refuse water you can (water used for washing dishes and the like) and use it to water plants to grow a few perishable foods (tomatoes, cucumbers, something like that). Hydroponics would be amazing if you could find a way to keep your fish alive (what do fish even eat, besides fish flakes?)
    Consider making contact with (geographically) close friends and family. Holing up together could be beneficial.

    After that, I'm not too sure. Eventually your tins of food and bottles of water would run out and the supermarket would be empty by then. You'd need to find a farm or similar but in all likelihood by then everything would have been stolen or the farmer has a shotgun and won't let you get close. Not sure what I would do after that. My plan would only really get you a week or so.
    Last edited by Garacesh; 17th March 2014 at 01:51 PM.

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    Join in with the looting, because you need food. Take cans of food and bottles of water.
    Add salt to your list.
    salt deficiency symptoms especially cramping are likely to develop within a few days. To prevent this, 6 or 8 grams of salt (about 1/4 oz, or 1/2 tablespoon) should be consumed daily in food and drink. If little or no food is eaten, this small daily salt ration should be added to drinking water.

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    I'd do a Bob's Burgers and steal some prepper's food.

    All I have in the way of skills is "workplace" first aid and amateur lockpicking. Which is guaranteed to be useful when there's a shortage of bricks and windows... Not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edutech4schools View Post
    Add salt to your list.
    Extremely valid point. I'm too used to getting enough salt from my food, but in this situation we'd be rationing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bompalompalomp View Post
    amateur lockpicking
    Are you kidding? If there was ever a use for Lockpicking, this would be it

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    A few key things I'd look for, longer term:

    Wood - fuel for fire, also to turn into charcoal for water filtering.
    Salt - Preservative for meats, necessary to survive also
    Fire starting equipment - flint and steel ideal
    Food - its everywhere really, but we're very fussy when its in abundance.

    To be honest, individually you've not got a huge chance of survival if society collapses. What's more likely is small groups form which can survive much easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garacesh View Post
    Are you kidding? If there was ever a use for Lockpicking, this would be it
    I know, right.

    Become an agent of discord by stealing SOME food without breaking anything...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garacesh View Post
    Extremely valid point. I'm too used to getting enough salt from my food, but in this situation we'd be rationing.


    Are you kidding? If there was ever a use for Lockpicking, this would be it
    Eh, enclosed rooms maybe, but in these scenarios you'd be better off with a brick or some boltcutters. Stealth's optional! ... And I'm not the speediest.

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    I'm still for killing those people who were prepared. Hell you could even eat them first and get to their food later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICTDirect_Dave View Post
    I'm still for killing those people who were prepared. Hell you could even eat them first and get to their food later.
    Only if you want to get Kuru...

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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    Only if you want to get Kuru...
    A valid point well made

    I'm mainly doing it because they'll be so damned smug about the whole situation. And the rest of the survivors could do without that!


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    But what will the teachers do without their interactive whiteboards/projectors??!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by APMerry View Post
    But what will the teachers do without their interactive whiteboards/projectors??!!
    Do what they've always done? Write on the interactive whiteboards in pen.

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    Surely not before having a nervous breakdown and throwing a hissy fit at the IT Tech :-)

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