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    WORLD WAR 3 AT 3am TOMORROW

    BBC Story:

    BBC News - Russia demands surrender of Ukraine's Crimea forces

    Everybody in the West is scared of Putin. The UN is useless.

    We depend on Russia for too much and Putin knows it. Without Russian gas, the lights really will go out in Europe.

    Nobody will stand up to him. He'll get what he wants.

    And for William Hague to go to Kiev - what a waste of time. He's useless as well.
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    Putin is probably the most honest diplomat of them all, he says he will do something and he does it.

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    In the whole time of events, it seems that's Czech Republic and Slovakia have rejoined!


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    Quote Originally Posted by tech_guy View Post
    The UN is useless.
    Russia has a veto in the UN anyway so it would be difficult for the UN to do anything useful even if they wanted to

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    Quote Originally Posted by tech_guy View Post
    BBC Story:

    BBC News - Russia demands surrender of Ukraine's Crimea forces

    Everybody in the West is scared of Putin. The UN is useless.

    We depend on Russia for too much and Putin knows it. Without Russian gas, the lights really will go out in Europe.

    Nobody will stand up to him. He'll get what he wants.

    And for William Hague to go to Kiev - what a waste of time. He's useless as well.
    Spot on.

    No one wants a WW3, No one will go to war with Russia (likewise for USA), Sanction talk is a waste, Hague has no cards on the table.

    If this was a card game it would as always come down to Russia, USA and China. No one else ever has a deck to compare. As for those 3 we all know they can do what they want and they don't care.

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    Gotta feel for those poor Ukrainian troops. Trapped in their bases waiting to die and their dwindling navy is left waiting to repel Russian guns and tanks whilst armed only with water cannons and mattresses.

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    25th October this year will be the 160th anniversary of The Charge of the Light Brigade. It's good to see that preperations for it's re-enactment cerimony are preceeding on schedule...

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    I feel sorry for the state of the world in general. Too worried to go and do anything about Russia, a country so obviously smegged in the head, because of our own reliance on it's resources. Hey, that sounds familiar doesn't it.

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    If this ends up as a war, it'll be because of an escalation by Putin - if people start dying we will probably get involved somehow. No-one is going to go in guns blazing over Crimea, as there's just too much at stake. America will likely put in place sanctions as they don't have or need much of a trade/financial relationship with Russia, but the UK will be pretty wet in its response, as we rely on Russia for gas and we have so much Russian money in the country (just look at how many buildings in London are Russian owned now).

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    Quote Originally Posted by witch View Post
    Russia has a veto in the UN anyway so it would be difficult for the UN to do anything useful even if they wanted to
    Does the veto still apply when voting on a matter concerning one of the 5 permanent members? How thought up that system, crazy. Doesn't that almost give those 5 the power to pretty much do as they like unopposed since they can automatically veto any sanctions?

    Quote Originally Posted by synaesthesia View Post
    I feel sorry for the state of the world in general. Too worried to go and do anything about Russia, a country so obviously smegged in the head, because of our own reliance on it's resources. Hey, that sounds familiar doesn't it.
    It's back to the cold war isn't it? I don't think it's over reliance on Russian resources we have to worry about. If that's all was at stake I'm sure something can be done (Iraq?). I think it's more the old threat of nuclear warheads that allows Russia to get away with bully-boy tactics. That and their closer ties to Beijing, WW3 would probably be both quicker and worse than either of the last two.

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    Shots fired!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trapper View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by tmcd35 View Post
    I think it's more the old threat of nuclear warheads that allows Russia to get away with bully-boy tactics. That and their closer ties to Beijing, WW3 would probably be both quicker and worse than either of the last two.
    I bet if they tried to launch any, they would blow up in the Silos! (It would be okay though, Russia would say they did it on purpose and it was an "exercise") :P

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