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    484 chrome 32 on android...

    Not looking good for IE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-13 View Post
    484 chrome 32 on android...

    Not looking good for IE = Internet Expired !!
    Yes - I think it has expired !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mac_shinobi View Post
    Yes - I think it has expired !!
    470 on whatever the default android browser is... IE is done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unixman_again View Post
    I keep telling people to use Chrome.
    It's okay, for the last 2 years or so I've ben telling people DONT use Chrome, it has problems with SharePoint, SLG, when users installed Chrome it would cause problems for their shortcuts and VLEs like Frog don't like Chrome.

    Sorry but this whole things work better in Chrome is only based on personal experience. My last job we forced IE and made sure no one installed anything else = no problems.

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    Ie usually works with most things. Compatability mode is your friend. Though ie11 seems to be a step backwards.

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    I think IE prior to 9 were so poor they left a very bad impression. in my opinion 9 and 10 were a vast improvement and made up for earlier awfulness.

    I have only had brief experience with IE11 but on W8 it looks annoying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mthomas08 View Post
    It's okay, for the last 2 years or so I've ben telling people DONT use Chrome, it has problems with SharePoint, SLG, when users installed Chrome it would cause problems for their shortcuts and VLEs like Frog don't like Chrome.

    Sorry but this whole things work better in Chrome is only based on personal experience. My last job we forced IE and made sure no one installed anything else = no problems.
    Sharepoint is your problem there, however I'm not sure what problems you've had with SLG - works fine in Chrome here.

    Quote Originally Posted by free780 View Post
    Ie usually works with most things. Compatability mode is your friend. Though ie11 seems to be a step backwards.
    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyTown View Post
    I think IE prior to 9 were so poor they left a very bad impression. in my opinion 9 and 10 were a vast improvement and made up for earlier awfulness.

    I have only had brief experience with IE11 but on W8 it looks annoying.
    The point is, every website of any decent level of complexity will almost certainly have a load of workarounds hard coded in to it so that it will work in IE. The fact that IE even include 'Compatibility Mode' speaks volumes; why not just make a browser that follows standards like everyone else?

    IE stinks! The sooner it can be permanently ditched, the better IMO!

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    With web development now, you have to basically develop everything twice - once for standards compliant browsers and once for IE (or even more times for IE, depending on whether you want to support older versions or not!).

    The amount of extra work it creates is pretty phenomenal. Not to mention the number of sites who have developers who have focussed only on IE - leaving everyone else to struggle. Great when you have a world filled with mobile devices that don't run IE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mthomas08 View Post
    It's okay, for the last 2 years or so I've ben telling people DONT use Chrome, it has problems with SharePoint, SLG, when users installed Chrome it would cause problems for their shortcuts and VLEs like Frog don't like Chrome.

    Sorry but this whole things work better in Chrome is only based on personal experience. My last job we forced IE and made sure no one installed anything else = no problems.
    No issues here with Chrome using sharepoint online and SSO, some issues with calendars in older versions of IE. The only thing I've had issues with in chrome is cisco old GUI's for CUCM and Wirelses controllers but they are all terrible regardless what browser you use. Then theirs other benefits to chrome like its great cloud syncing, much improved settings and history pages over IE, more stable then IE, when it does lockup or crash it will 99% of the time recover my previous browsing session, cross device support I find useful viewing what I was browsing on my phone or tablet, flash running sandboxed, multiple user support and its sometimes over eagerness to warn you about unrecognized certificates. I've also had it warn me about a site that appears to be dodgy.

    Even just creating some basic display pages can prove a nightmare for IE recently making some content for our intranet worked in mozilla, worked in chrome, worked in SOME versions of IE and the order they worked were just odd, fine it 11 fine in 9 didnt work with 10, only had a couple of divs and I always use a full css reset first! Chromes inspect element and dev tools are also great, use them more then firebug now
    Last edited by bondbill2k2; 28th February 2014 at 08:28 AM.

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    It's a shame IE is so bad really as it is my favourite browser. This might be because it's integrated into the Windows OS and I can easily set settings on there for example going to Tools - Internet Options is the same as going to Control Panel - Internet Options.
    I don't understand why and how Microsoft got it so bad surely they should be the best at this kind of thing! We have a GP that deploys Google Chrome MSI to all machines, this seems to work pretty well! Microsoft need to sort themselves out really, though it is funny I found the IE app in metro screen always seemed to work a lot better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    With web development now, you have to basically develop everything twice - once for standards compliant browsers and once for IE (or even more times for IE, depending on whether you want to support older versions or not!).
    No you don't, you simply put a disclaimer on your website "Best viewed in anything expect IE".

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    Quote Originally Posted by unixman_again View Post
    No you don't, you simply put a disclaimer on your website "Best viewed in anything expect IE".
    Or you just add:

    Code:
    <!--[if IE]>
    <html>
    <body>
    <h1>Internet explorer is bad.</h1>
    
    <p>Get <a href="Chrome download link goes here">chrome</a>.</p>
    </body>
    </html>
    <![endif]-->

    ~Disclaimer: I ain't no codemonkey. That's probably 50 shades of wrong.~
    Last edited by X-13; 28th February 2014 at 09:08 AM.

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    On another note is anyone here using Chrome on their networks for staff or students?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bondbill2k2 View Post
    On another note is anyone here using Chrome on their networks for staff or students?
    Yup, we use it here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bondbill2k2 View Post
    On another note is anyone here using Chrome on their networks for staff or students?
    Yes. And it tries to save ALL the things to their profiles... which has cause a few issues. But, I think I've managed to limit it.

    I'm using the ADMX templates from Google to configure it.

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