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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    The link appears to be that the NCCL gave affiliate status to PIE before Harman worked there. The Daily Mail then wanted her to denounce that link, even though it was a) nothing to do with her and b) before she started there.

    Should we all behave in that way? We'd all spend all day apologising!
    Having watched some of the BBC's 'Interview' with her last night - before I turned it off, it appears that getting affiliate status required paying a small annual membership fee and it looks like very little attention was being paid to what sort of groups were paying the fees. Not sure how this is her fault if they were given affiliation before she worked there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gibbo View Post
    I'm not sure what the DM's agenda is, they've never nailed their political colours to the Tory mast have they?

    Maybe this is why the BBC is taking it lightly - scratch the surface and you get the link to Savile.
    The DM's political agenda is pretty clear. It's owned by very wealthy individuals who want low taxes, small state and the best possible environment in which they can make even more money (eg weakened laws on pollution / wages / etc etc). The Tories are clearly their party of choice.

    As for "the BBC are left wing" elsewhere in this thread - so how come they've almost completely ignored the NHS run down and sell off agenda the government are currently pursuing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mats View Post
    As for "the BBC are left wing" elsewhere in this thread - so how come they've almost completely ignored the NHS run down and sell off agenda the government are currently pursuing?
    Maybe because all parties have a grubby paw in it?

    Social Investigations: MPs financial links to companies involved in private healthcare

    1. David Blunkett: MP for Sheffield, Brightside and Hillsborough - Received fee of £4,250 from Civica 28th January, 2013. More than 70 NHS Commissioners use Civica Health & Social Care's industry standard SLAM NHS Commissioning software to help manage service level agreements with providers, including Payment by Results, local tariffs, local agreements, block payments and other variants.Received a fee of his apparent going rate of £4,250 for a speech at Runwood Care homes in December 2012. Recently acquired eight care homes from Warwickshire County Council.

    2. Rosie Cooper: MP for West Lancashire - Paid by Cumberlege Connections for £300 for work with a focus group of health professionals. Company run by Tory Lord Baroness Cumberlege who broke the rules with this company in 2009, by failing to declare it in her registered interests, ran the business from her Westminster office. The company offers courses in power, politics and persuasion to leading staff in the NHS. Five Labour Lords, and several MPs have been paid for providing for her courses. The company is involved in bidding for the transition development of the new Clinical Commissioning Groups.

    3. Simon Danczuk - MP for Rochdale - Fees from Cumberlege Connections Ltd, (See Rosie Cooper). Received fee of £300 for speaking at Fringe meeting of NHS Alliance Conference. Hours: 1.5 hrs (Registered 8 August 2012) March 2012 , received fee of £300 for speaking at Westminster Experience training workshop. Hours: 3 hrs. (Registered 8 August 2012) June 2012, received fee of £300 for speaking at Westminster Experience training workshop. Hours: 3 hrs. (Registered 8 August 2012) 11 September 2012, received fee of £300 for speaking at Westminster Experience training workshop. Hours: 1.5 hrs.
    Non-Executive Director, providing business advice for Shine-Bid Services Ltd – Company provides support for bids which include the areas of healthcare procurement and PFI.

    4. Alistair Darling: MP for Edinburgh South-West: 7 April 2011, He received a fee of £10,200 for addressing a dinner organised by Cinven, London. Hours: approx 6 hrs. On its website it states: ‘Cinven has been involved in European healthcare over a 20-year period and invests in market-leading, cash-generative companies.’

    Cinven is a leading buyout firm, who bought 25 private hospitals from Bupa. Other UK investments include. Spire Healthcare, who run private healthcare hospitals, and whose clinical director Jean-Jacques de Gorter said the use of private sector would spiral as a result of Andrew Lansley’s reform proposals. General healthcare group, which runs healthcare services, and whose group includes: BMI healthcare. The other company is Générale de Santé who are France’s leading healthcare provider.

    Patricia Hewitt (see below) was an advisor to Cinven.

    5. Frank Dobson: MP for Holborn and St Pancras: Received payment from Cumberlege Connections: (See Rosie Cooper)

    6. Frank Field – MP for Birkenhead: Is a non-executive director of Medicash Health Benefits Ltd a private health insurance company – he was appointed Chairman of the board on 20th of June 2011. Frank Field has worked with Medicash for 8 years having first been appointed as a non-executive director in 2003. The register of interests says his role is to ‘attend meetings offer advice.’ For this work he receives a monthly payment of £1,030, which according to the Medicash website will be given directly to local charities. What’s the problem with this? Private health insurance companies are set to profit from a privatised NHS.

    7. David Lammy: MP for Tottenham: Received several payments from Cumberlege Connenctions for participating in 'Westminster Experience' conference: (See Rosie Cooper). January 2011, received fee of £229.70 for participating in the King’s Fund ‘High Potential Executive’ Programme. King’s Fund are a charity that ‘shapes NHS policy and practice, provides NHS leadership development and information, and hosts health care events.’

    8. Owen Smith: MP for Pontypridd. A former UK lobbyist for the American pharmaceutical giant Pfizer, where he was head of government affairs from 2005-2007. Director of Corporate Affairs and Health Economics for the UK’s biggest biotechnology company Amgen Ltd from 2008–09.

    9. Gisela Suart: MP for Birmingham, Egbaston - Speaking at seminars for Cumberlege Connections. (See Rosie Cooper). Her Cumberlege Connections work includes: Payment of £350 for taking part in workshop. Hours: 2 hrs. Payment of £900 for taking part in workshop in Winchester. Payment of £1,900 for NHS leadership programme. Hours: 2 days. (Registered 6 April 2012). Payment of £300 for parliamentary programme workshop. Hours: 2 hrs. (Registered 6 April 2012.

    10. Shaun Woodward: Shares in J Sainsbury PLC. Sainsbury run pharmacies and provide food for the NHS

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    Oh yes, it's wrong that MPs get to vote for things that benefit companies they profit from.

    If you're still not sure about which side of the political spectrum the Wail is on - how about the "The man who hated Britain" hatchet job they did on Ed Milliband's dad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mats View Post
    Oh yes, it's wrong that MPs get to vote for things that benefit companies they profit from.

    If you're still not sure about which side of the political spectrum the Wail is on - how about the "The man who hated Britain" hatchet job they did on Ed Milliband's dad?
    Oh yes, of course, the man who arrived in Britain as a refugee and joined the Armed Forces to fight the Nazis- yes, definitely hated Britain - never let the truth get in the way of a good story

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    Quote Originally Posted by witch View Post
    Oh yes, of course, the man who arrived in Britain as a refugee and joined the Armed Forces to fight the Nazis- yes, definitely hated Britain - never let the truth get in the way of a good story
    The Marxist you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zag View Post
    The Marxist you mean?
    Yes, that's right, the evil Marxist

    Re-reading the whole issue though, I think it would have been prudent of Harriet Harman to express regret that PIE were affiliated with something she was involved with right at the get-go. She is an experienced politician and she KNOWS what the press would do to her. Seems a bit silly not to just cut them off right at the beginning.



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