DaveP (20th February 2014)
DaveP, but I think the results would be more useful if the English, Northern Irish, Scots and Welsh were allowed to say that rather than lumping us all as UK
Last edited by elsiegee40; 20th February 2014 at 07:36 PM.
DaveP (20th February 2014)
Wow this has taken off a bit since I looked earlier- and turning into a good debate!
As for whether or not Salmond has stated that he would default on the Debt - He did this week in Aberdeen!
Source: Salmond says Scotland will not share debt without share of pound - FT.comOffering a “deconstruction” of Mr Osborne’s argument, Mr Salmond said: “If there is no legal basis for Scotland having a share of the public asset of the Bank of England, then there is equally no legal basis for Scotland accepting a share of the public liability of the national debt.”
How can they claim to take back/remove things but leave us with the bill too for the shared debt.
Last edited by ZeroHour; 20th February 2014 at 07:48 PM.
I agree that there is a lot of cherry picking going on with the key points, but at the same time, both sides need to get themselves sorted:
The "Better Together" side need to come up with a proper "white paper" and the "Yes" campaign (particularly Salmond, Sturgeon and Swinney [aka The SSS Brigade] need to stop doing the "La La La" song and start being constructive with the comment that are being raised about the EU and the Pound.
Rather than branding the other side as bullies or saying they're opinions are preposterous, then need to start sitting down, digesting the information and coming back with something that the voters are going to want to hear - so when the rUK says that a Currency Union is highly unlikely, the SSS Brigade need to sit down go ok, they've said this, how can we work with this, what other options do we have - then come back with some proper answers and not that of stroppy teenagers in a playground fight..
If they could do this and explain to us what they will do should A, B C or D happen, then I'd be more inclined to listen to them.
But at the moment all I'm hearing is them slagging off those who oppose independence - It's not constructive and its, to be blunt, childish.
OK. I have recreated the poll.
Link: SurveyMapper - Respond to Survey: Should Scotland be an independent country?
The previous one still exists as the site won't let me delete it at the moment.
I have taken the responses down to postcode level [Only need the first part of the post code]
It should work now [Fingers crossed]
elsiegee40 (20th February 2014)
True, this isn't helping - I do kinda agree with David Cameron though when he says that it really should be between Alex Salmond and Alistair Darling who's heading the Better Together campain. However, it wouldn't hurt DC to agree to some form of compromise - though I feel now that it's too late - if Cameron concedes and has a debate then it makes him appear weak, and the SNP could pounce on this with an opportunity to prove that if they can concede for a debate, then they can concede on things like a currency union.
So as much as I feel a debate is a good idea, I can't see it happening for this reason.
As for the YES campaign.. well as I've already said, they need to start being more constructive an stop the playground antics..
He wouldnt look weak, he would look like he cared, a problem the tory party have in Scotland where they are seen to realise our votes dont mean much, if Scotland, North Ireland and Wales all voted for a party it would make no difference as we dont have enough votes I believe to stop anything. Although thinking now he probably cares more about looking weak to the rUK voters with the upcoming election. The tories have a huge image problem in Scotland, one he doesnt help by ignoring us, it makes it very easy for the Yes campaign to use tory stereotypes against a vote for no.
At least he mentioned us in his new years address.
Last edited by ZeroHour; 20th February 2014 at 08:26 PM.
If @Gatt doesn't mind I will create a new thread for my SurveyMapper poll.
I have two responses on my poll so far.
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