LosOjos (15th January 2014)
OK, time to roll the dice and give Sky a call then. Hopefully I can get them to cut me some kind of deal as it would actually work out cheaper with BT once you take the 3 months half price plus cheaper activation fee in to account. Not that I have any intention of going to BT now but it's always nice to have your gun loaded when you make these calls
I am sure BT log everything and they actively disable things like Googles HTTPS search as google will alert you to it to prevent abuse but when anyone can get a disposable credit card it will make the process slow.
Sky suffers from overloaded exchanges (my old one for example) but Virgin have a huge habit of doing the same thing but the actual connection ADSL/FTTC should be similar for any ISP. The speed difference usually comes from the exchange->net backhaul and how much money X isp spends on their bandwidth.
Last edited by ZeroHour; 15th January 2014 at 12:56 PM.
Just to clarify for all Infinity is just a brand name for BT Retails FTTC offering, Sky offer Sky Fibre as their brand name for FTTC but both use exactly the same phone/wire/street cabinet. When your data gets to the exchange it then goes either via BT Retails backhaul or Sky Broadbands backhaul but up to that point both are identical and ran by a company called BT Openreach (part of BT but regulated which is why its seperate from BT Retail who sell broadband)
Virgin offer fibre but that is seperate from BT Openreach FTTC and having Virgin in the area wont affect the possibility of having BT Openreach FTTC, the 2 things are not linked.
mac_shinobi (15th January 2014)
The guest AP is secure in the sense your internal network cant be hacked from it, its just annoying to think you could lose bandwidth to *guests*
I believe the bt with fon and openzone can be turned off, but you have to use a form on the BT website, or call them and they turn it off.
However I'm not so sure that it then renders you unable to use the bt public wifi if you are out and about.
The problem is I think many of BT's customers dont know about the feature or how to use it or that BT resells their bandwidth. I literally had to use the BT Wifi AP of an unknown neighbour at christmas and paid for a day of access. The interesting thing was I could hear music/sound through the wall but when I started downloading the music/sound was cutting out then a few minutes later the AP's would disappear. I suspect that person was rebooting the router as they couldnt understand why the net was busy/slow but I am speculating. It did happen several times though while downloading updates though and the sound was stuttering/stopping regularly after I started the updates.
Oh, don't get me wrong, I think the automatic attachment of another service freeloading off someone's possibly already pitiful connection is a pretty underhand way to do business and BT need to publicise the way it works far better. However, it CAN (and should) just be turned off.
When we moved to Sky they took over the phone line as well. Overnight the line speed improved by 500%. We were very happy. The subsequent move to fibre has been hassle free too,
Our next door neighbour is still with BT and has moved to fibre with them. Based on his experience, I am glad we are with Sky
Last edited by elsiegee40; 15th January 2014 at 04:57 PM.
Just an update - Sky FTTC went live yesterday, gone from 3 down 0.6 up to a non-too-shabby 20 down 6 up - I'm happy
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