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General Chat Thread, Gov proposes 60mph motorway speed limit in General; 60mph speed limit proposal for stretch of M1 motorway . I could only imagine the howls of outrage at this, ...
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    Gov proposes 60mph motorway speed limit

    60mph speed limit proposal for stretch of M1 motorway.

    I could only imagine the howls of outrage at this, so I thought why not post it here and see them for real !

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    I wish that I could reach 60mph on the M6 around Birmingham...

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    ouch thats 30 miles of motorway i use often enough to hate this idea. I have no issue with variable speed or even at rush hour but at midday why oh why.
    Yes cars polute but much less than they used to but it cant all be beat people with a stick intil they give up their cars until public transport dosent cost an arm and a leg thats no use and thats ignoring the inconvinience of it

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    Ouch. Thats harsh. Even as a non-car driver I think this is lunacy. Plus that 60mph will affect the M1 right down to J6 or J7. Last time there was an accident at Crick (J19), it caused issues right down J2!!

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    You might find that a reduced speed limit will make the traffic flow faster by reducing the concertina/slinky effects on traffic.

    Quite often phantom traffic jams ("jamitons") are reduced at lower speeds and the traffic flows better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jinnantonnixx View Post
    You might find that a reduced speed limit will make the traffic flow faster by reducing the concertina/slinky effects on traffic.

    Quite often phantom traffic jams ("jamitons") are reduced at lower speeds and the traffic flows better.
    This does work with the variable speed limit slowing traffic down further back on the road. All you will get in this situation is the exact same as now just a little slower and people driving even closer to the car ahead.

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    So our cars get much better at stopping over the years and now this. Hmmm me thinks someone wants to make some more money out of speeding tickets.

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    Or make HS2 more appealing.

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    I say increase it.

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    Great idea. As long as you ban lorries/caravans/trailers/minibuses from lanes 2 + 3!

    Can you imagine it, a lorry in lane 1 doing 56mph, a caravan in lane 2 doing 58 mph and some poor so and so in a car doing 60mph in lane 3. Yep, really going to ease congestion that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foofighterjim View Post
    This does work with the variable speed limit slowing traffic down further back on the road. All you will get in this situation is the exact same as now just a little slower and people driving even closer to the car ahead.
    Not necessarily. The idea behind traffic flow dynamics is that the aim (believe it or not) is for all traffic to travel at the same speed. This is impossible of course, but it is the aim. If it's badly implemented, though, it won't work.

    Look for the section 'viscosity', It's fascinating stuff.
    MIT Mathematics | Traffic Modeling
    Last edited by jinnantonnixx; 6th January 2014 at 02:35 PM.

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    Hence why put the limit up.

    Lorries are limited to 56mph.

    If you put the limit up the congestion will filter out. The gov stance on speed limits frustrates me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edutech4schools View Post
    So our cars get much better at stopping over the years and now this. Hmmm me thinks someone wants to make some more money out of speeding tickets.


    Or, you know, they're doing it for the reason they say - to reduce pollution. Reducing speed by 10km/h would reduce emissions by up to 12-18% according to an EU study a while back (if people follow the speed limit!).

    So, it could be well worth it to the communities near the stretch of road.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hefferzzzz View Post
    Great idea. As long as you ban lorries/caravans/trailers/minibuses from lanes 2 + 3!

    Can you imagine it, a lorry in lane 1 doing 56mph, a caravan in lane 2 doing 58 mph and some poor so and so in a car doing 60mph in lane 3. Yep, really going to ease congestion that.
    How would this cause any issue? None of you can go above 60, so it won't be *causing* congestion.
    Last edited by localzuk; 6th January 2014 at 02:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post

    How would this cause any issue? None of you can go above 60, so it won't be *causing* congestion.

    surely by that logic motorways need not have multiple lanes as if the first car is doing 70, then there is no congestion anywhere as everyone behind is too

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    Quote Originally Posted by unixman_again View Post
    I wish that I could reach 60mph on the M6 around Birmingham...
    Easy...

    ...If you're willing to pay £10 for the privalidge

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