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    Quote Originally Posted by Garacesh View Post
    They allow for monthly, four-weekly, and full-moonly billing. That's pretty cool.
    Not seeing anything about pricing, though.
    Click Broadband.
    Click Prices.
    Andrews & Arnold Ltd - Broadband Prices

    £25 a month for 100GB isn't the cheapest, but it is worth paying the "not an @rseh0le" tax sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garacesh View Post
    They allow for monthly, four-weekly, and full-moonly billing. That's pretty cool.
    Not seeing anything about pricing, though.
    A&A aren't cheap, compared to the big names. Their Home 1 bundle is £25 a month with 100GB data allowance, and an extra £10 per 50GB more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    A&A aren't cheap, compared to the big names. Their Home 1 bundle is £25 a month with 100GB data allowance, and an extra £10 per 50GB more.
    That's doesn't tell me the speed, just how much I'm allowed to download :P

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    ADSL2+ speeds, so whatever your line supports.

    They also offer a fibre product.

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    Just reading this thread is making my chest feel tight and the panic is looming. I really ought to stop looking at this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMLightfoot View Post
    Just reading this thread is making my chest feel tight and the panic is looming. I really ought to stop looking at this forum.
    Don't publicly admit that! The NSA will come for you...

    I for one welcome our new internet overlords deciding what's best of me because someone please think of the children.

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    BBC News - Ministers bid to block extremist videos posted on foreign websites

    "The government is attempting to block all online extremist videos that help to radicalise impressionable young men"

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    Quote Originally Posted by crc-ict View Post
    Considering some of the language/terms used in this report, this might be worthy of an NSFW.

    Readers using Securus, for example, will regret loading that page - there'll be hits a plenty!
    only if the Securus box is working, which it mostly isn't...

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    1984, right lines just 30 years out.

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    So where's the outrage? Or do we just let this happen?!

    Seriously.

    Now it is time to stand up and be counted. Filters that the people (and by that I mean the individuals) control are fine and great, but this censorship and it is insidious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theblacksheep View Post
    "The government is attempting to block all online extremist videos that help to radicalise impressionable young men"
    "help to radicalise impressionable young men"

    The only word in that sentence with a definite meaning is "men". Help, radicalise, impressionable and young are all so vague as to be completely useless as a guideline. Wouldn't the WikiLeaks video of the helicopter shooting "help to radicalise" someone, despite absolutely being something that all of us as citizens need to see and be aware of? What do you even mean by "radicalise"? Aren't all young people "impressionable"? How young is "young"? Why only men, anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by psydii View Post
    So where's the outrage? Or do we just let this happen?!
    I think it's a typical case of "First, they came for the.. And then they came for me". I don't want to watch extremist videos, therefore I don't care if they ban them. Obviously there's the 'feature-creep' as to where non-extremist videos that go against the current government are censored too, but that's 'in the future', and of course there's the vagueness of the word 'extremist' anyway.
    There's no outrage right now because it's not affecting many people - and the people it is affecting just switch the filter off.

    Not saying this is right. I'm just saying that's how it is. I admit even I, who knows what is happening and what will happen, am a little too complacent about things because so far I've been given the opt-out.

    You want that to change? Then you change it. Start doing it yourself rather than waiting for others to be outraged. Get on board with campaigns against this filter. Educate people on its potential for abuse, to silence the 'little guy'. Stop waiting for others to do it for you.
    (Just to have it on record: That's by no way meant to be an attack, but cold motivation, and it isn't directly aimed at just you either, @psydii.)
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    Oh look, exactly what everyone with a shred of common sense said would happen is happening.

    You just know if protests were organised the media would play it down as a "bunch of perverts don't want porn filters."

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    Theoretically, this would have affected a website I used to run called 'ARMORY' (an animal rights video/image site). It used to have all sorts of animal rights movies online, such as exposť stuff, hidden camera videos, factory farm process videos etc... In the eyes of the government, that stuff would be 'extremist' and therefore blockable.

    Its simply proof that the government cannot be trusted with powers over internet access - they simply don't 'get it'.

    I'll be writing to my MP again.

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    They 'get it' very well. All the parties want to censor the internet and now they have. They will position it as censoring things that are unreasonable and use that as a smokescreen to hide behind when it comes to using it to impinge on other things.

    Now they've got it and someone else had to pay the political price for it, Labour might wring their hands and make political capital out of some of the grossest errors in the filters imposed by the coalition but if they get into power they will find reasons not to turn it off and none of the other parties will give them too much of a hard time over it.
    Last edited by Roberto; 11th February 2014 at 08:51 AM.

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