bodminman (24th October 2013)
If you watched the shoplifter and proud program they classed it as their job, because it was easier than a real job and paid better. The lack of repercussions also encouraged them. Its just too easy if you have no morals!
Feeling the pinch here; three kids and feel my income just doesn't stretch as far as it did. Each month seems to be a major bill, insurance, etc that just gobbles up the chance to save or treat yourself with.
My wife does Floristry work privately, registered with the Tax man and does Tax Return each year. Last year she made about £1500 in profit and of course this was declared to the Child Tax Credit and what happens? Child Tax Credit gets reduce by £1500 ! So, where's the incentive to actually get of your butt and do something for yourself?
The reason we are all skint is down to something Nixon did back in 1971, in a very VERY simple explination.
After World War 2 in 1945 it was agreed that the dollar would be linked to gold, and all other currencies in the world fixed their exchange rate relative to the dollar. This was the ‘Bretton Woods Agreement’.
So in the late 40’s, 50’s and 60’s just the father would work and there could many kids in the family and they would be comfortable off just 1 wage.
Then in 1971 Nixon chopped off the link between the dollar and gold. Then the US started printing money it did not have (as its not linked to anything), writing IOU’s, and the world is running on ‘fiat’ currency. Now everything becomes more expensive, but to mask this crack, in the 70’s and 80’s the Wife now gets a job as well as the husband, so the family can be as comfortable as it was the 60’s.
Now we come to the 90s and 00’s, 2 incomes is not enough, so we start living off credit instead, everyone has credit cards, cars on finance to mask the crack.
Now we come to 2008 to now, and all the credit has dried up, nobody else in the household can work, and well were screwed…. Only way to fix this is to link the currency to something tangible like gold again.
But that’s not wanted by the people in power and even the bank of England was selling off our gold cheap to make currency look more powerful than gold.
Treats like a day out or a trip to the cinema with a bit of food at Frankie & Bennies is now something I can only afford maybe every couple of months.
Sad for the child really when their friends are talking about the latest kids film in the cinema and she most likely wont get to see it until the DVD comes out.
Honestly, not accepting state help isn't really a commendable action. We have some of the worst social safety nets in europe, but they still exist to help you. Choosing not to use them is foolish in the extreme, in my opinion.
Edit: Especially if you're choosing not to use them because of some misguided sense of morality.
Last edited by Sdrawkcab; 24th October 2013 at 11:56 AM.
iom100 (28th October 2013)
I won't lie, i'm well off. I can buy whatever i need (within reason) and we have the bank balance going up.
It's when i read things like that, that i truely do think. The food i throw away, the money i throw away, the tv i leave on all night, the lights that stay on when we don't need them, the excess fuel we use, the heating we put on because it's a little nippy, the fireplace i put on when i should be wearing a t-shirt... all these things... it's as if... they're normal to me. However, i think if i spent a week with yourself, i'd get so piddled off with the way of living, i'd go crazy.
No one should have to live in such conditions, especially with kids. I know people are worse off than you, but that's a different story. My condolences go out to you mate, and i wish you all the best in getting a high paid job!
We're lucky that the cinema has a saturday morning movies for juniors, £1 a ticket.
@Sdrawkcab I want the benefits to boost our income, but we are above the threshold and dont qualify for it. I want a well paying job with a degree of permanence, but that doesn't exist anymore. Hell I would stack shelves in tesco or asda if they would offer anything over 18 hours a week (on their wages, thats what I need as a minimum to bring in what I need to live comfortably). I'm not missing out because of morality, I am missing out because of circumstance. I would claim for everything I am entitled too, but just dont meet the requirements. I couldn't stay on it for life however like some people do.
@Sunnyknight I am always happy to receive donations
Last edited by nephilim; 24th October 2013 at 11:57 AM.
I have first had proof unfortunately, they very much exist and seem to have an air about them you would not believe.
If you think they don't exist, you've not lived in the areas where they most exist.
Last edited by localzuk; 24th October 2013 at 12:05 PM.
I too have experience these 'Serial Scroungers' in Chester, Manchester & Lowestoft/Great Yarmouth.
That is what my pa does, and has done for 40 years. Known soldier! lol You should attempt it. Even for a few months, it's money in the bank.
As for donations, i would, only after i complete the projects i have coming up
ahh construction...would do it, if not for my disability, unless they need a data cabler. Unfortunately not something I am physically able to do without being a danger to people. I see a specialist disability adviser in the job centre for this reason.
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