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    Quote Originally Posted by Little-Miss View Post
    Also: I'm trying everything within my power NOT to have iPads in school. If they want to go tablet, i'll look at the Surface...
    You could go Android.... We have 95 Samsung Galaxy tabs in school. Some 10" but most 7" They are not without their issues, but I feel they have more to offer than the iPad. I have had to make changes to our wireless and Smoothwall. But each to their own. I think the surface might be a good option, I think they might be a good device for schools especially at the price they are at the moment.

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    I really like this look of this:
    Xiaomi “Red Rice” Hongmi smartphone finally revealed - Android Community

    but doubt it will be made for euro market

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    Quote Originally Posted by mole View Post
    doubt it will be made for euro market
    Xiaomi do have plans to sell their smartphones globally in the not too distant future. If the 64GB Mi3 pictured below costs ~£310 (inc. VAT) in the UK, I think they will do really well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by j17sparky View Post
    Because THEY want to be labeled. Therefore people have every right to put an unpleasant label on them.

    If you want to stand there and shout look at me then you can't complaint when people look and think who's that tos....


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    An unpleasant label because of the car they drive? So, if I drove a Jeep I'd immediately become a T?

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    People will pay it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edu-IT View Post
    An unpleasant label because of the car they drive? So, if I drove a Jeep I'd immediately become a T?
    That isn't exactly what I wrote, I said people who want to be looked at, people who use a car/anything as a status symbol. If you lived on a farm and drove a 4x4 I doubt very much anyone would judge you based on your car. Can you honestly tell me you would make no judgement at all on the person who drives this?

    £709 for a phone-dmc05082007saxo6blackrear.jpg

    Some people will look at you and think you are wickid cowl, others will think something less pleasant.
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    It’s not as much if you consider it has more graphics power then an Xbox360, can output to HD to a TV can play HD TV shows to your TV and is basically a laptop in your hand. In fact I would bet it outspecs many school computers. From a technology point of view it really is amazing not that I would ever get one.

    EDIT: One way to look at it is you might no longer need a TV box set, might no longer need a games console or laptop. Consolidate all the devices down to one. That’s what I do at home although I use a different device. I no longer have a games console or TV box set using loveflim to a large screen for example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pottsey View Post
    It’s not as much if you consider it has more graphics power then an Xbox360, can output to HD to a TV can play HD TV shows to your TV and is basically a laptop in your hand. In fact I would bet it outspecs many school computers. From a technology point of view it really is amazing not that I would ever get one.
    I, errrr, no. Equating one aspect of one product category to the same thing in another is just ridiculous, akin to saying "my car has more boot space than a Ferrari"
    Remember also that there was probably a time when certain calculators out-specced a ZX Spectrum in areas, but it's still a case of right tool for the right job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dopefish View Post
    I, errrr, no. Equating one aspect of one product category to the same thing in another is just ridiculous, akin to saying "my car has more boot space than a Ferrari"
    Remember also that there was probably a time when certain calculators out-specced a ZX Spectrum in areas, but it's still a case of right tool for the right job.
    I do not see how that is ridiculous. The phones are expensive as the specs are high and you get a lot of different device functionally in 1 package. It’s not just a phone which is why it costs so much more than just a basic phone.

    It’s a phone, games console, TV system, laptop and everything else all built into one small device that outputs wirelessly to speakers and a HD TV. That’s what you pay for.

    It’s not akin to saying "my car has more boot space than a Ferrari" it’s more no longer needing 3 or 4 different devices or if talking about cars no longer needing 3 or 4 cars and doing it all via 1 device/car. Like I said I no longer need a TV license, music player, setup box or TV subscription like Virgin or Sky. No longer need a games console. All been replaced via 1 device that if I want I can carry around with me. That’s what you pay for. If anything I save money like this so £700 doesn’t seem a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pottsey View Post
    I do not see how that is ridiculous. The phones are expensive as the specs are high and you get a lot of different device functionally in 1 package. It’s not just a phone which is why it costs so much more than just a basic phone.

    It’s a phone, games console, TV system, laptop and everything else all built into one small device that outputs wirelessly to speakers and a HD TV. That’s what you pay for.

    It’s not akin to saying "my car has more boot space than a Ferrari" it’s more no longer needing 3 or 4 different devices or if talking about cars no longer needing 3 or 4 cars and doing it all via 1 device/car. Like I said I no longer need a TV license, music player, setup box or TV subscription like Virgin or Sky. No longer need a games console. All been replaced via 1 device that if I want I can carry around with me. That’s what you pay for. If anything I save money like this so £700 doesn’t seem a lot.
    I'm guessing the more gpu power may be in specific areas and also gambling that the PowerPC triple core could roast an iPhone with it's arm derived cores at a whole stack of tasks just like Intel chips can, arm is very specialised in comparison so while it may be able to do some things really fast it would get it's ass handed to it by a desktop processor at everything it has not been specifically optimised for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SYNACK View Post
    I'm guessing the more gpu power may be in specific areas and also gambling that the PowerPC triple core could roast an iPhone with it's arm derived cores at a whole stack of tasks just like Intel chips can, arm is very specialised in comparison so while it may be able to do some things really fast it would get it's ass handed to it by a desktop processor at everything it has not been specifically optimised for.
    The new GPU is the first architecture from PowerVR designed around General-purpose computing . You can do all sorts of interesting thing on it far faster than the CPU via GP compute. A big part of the new Iphone is the raw GPU computing power it has.

    Sure a desktop will beat it massively but for many tasks a mobile device is now good enough that you do not need a desktop. Just look at how many people like me have started replacing devices around the homes with a mobile device. Things like Airplay have got rid of or reduced the need for game consoles, music players, TV subscriptions and so on. So yes it’s an expensive device but its far more than just a phone.
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    so basically Paul O'Grady should have been stood there saying "the new iPhone let's you play Candy Crush 2x the speed of other phones" as well as all the other "2x" claims they made

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dopefish View Post
    so basically Paul O'Grady should have been stood there saying "the new iPhone let's you play Candy Crush 2x the speed of other phones" as well as all the other "2x" claims they made
    Isn’t that what he did only he used more of an Xbox 360 style graphics game outputted to a HD TV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pottsey View Post
    The new GPU is the first architecture from PowerVR designed around General-purpose computing . You can do all sorts of interesting thing on it far faster than the CPU via GP compute. A big part of the new Iphone is the raw GPU computing power it has.

    Sure a desktop will beat it massively but for many tasks a mobile device is now good enough that you do not need a desktop. Just look at how many people like me have started replacing devices around the homes with a mobile device. Things like Airplay have got rid of or reduced the need for game consoles, music players, TV subscriptions and so on. So yes it’s an expensive device but its far more than just a phone.
    Good for some but personally I like the fact that my phone can be flat, lost, broken, stolen and yet I can still go home and fake murder people to vent about it, my phone can do a stack of that stuff too and cost nowhere near as much, I use a stack of different devices and like them all to be capable so if one suffers an unfortunate fate I'm not thrust back into the stone age by a misplaced water balloon. Good enough cpu has been around for quite a while, my old touch pro 2 managed most of that with wires years ago for sd tv, the standard at the time and I routinely stream media from my smart phone to my smart tv or console, or amp. All of these can manage 1080p and a web browser but I would not bin any of them as they each do something very well, sound from a tv can be lacking so the amp and battery life/hear from a phone can be rubbish so sometimes a specific tool is just better. I also still prefer pc and console games, I don't want to spend $100 a month on Facebook beans to play the games, I want a decent engrossing game with a decent story. I don't think that the full unification will be for everyone for a long time yet despite what the apple faithful may believe they deserve. I prefer universality, I want everything to be smart and work together to become even greater rather than a single device which dictates how smart things can be. It seems like entrapment.
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