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General Chat Thread, Cameron is at it again..... in General; Originally Posted by flyinghaggis Still, at least now the the Daily Mail can claim the moral high ground in it's ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by flyinghaggis View Post
    Still, at least now the the Daily Mail can claim the moral high ground in it's stand for family values....

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    That screenshot is priceless - proudly claiming victory over the net pron block while displaying multiple scantily clad women right alongside it. *slow claps*

    EDIT: oh and the best is last, talking about how a minor looks so grown up in high heels and a mini skirt... you couldn't make it up!
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    I suspect that it may have involved photoshop. The Mail Online can be vile, but that seems... well to good to be true for all the Mail haters in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psydii View Post
    I suspect that it may have involved photoshop. The Mail Online can be vile, but that seems... well to good to be true for all the Mail haters in the world.
    I think it is a photoshop, but they're all real things that have been on the site more than likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyinghaggis View Post
    I'd have taken him more seriously if he'd said 'there's unsuitable content for minors on the web; how can we stop them accessing it?".
    The answer to that, much as people wont like to hear it, is that we can't if they are determined enough to get at it. School Techs, I would of thought, were some of the most experienced dealing with this issue on a regular basis. We have full control of our network, internet access and client PCs yet even we do not able to get it right 100% of the time. So given that, what possibility is there for an ISP to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by psydii View Post
    I suspect that it may have involved photoshop. The Mail Online can be vile, but that seems... well to good to be true for all the Mail haters in the world.
    Maybe a little reorganising but it's all there: Internet porn block on EVERY home: Victory for the Mail as PM David Cameron pledges 'opt in' rule | Mail Online

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    Children can’t go into the shops or the cinema and buy things meant for adults or have adult experiences – we rightly regulate to protect them.
    so no under 18 has ever bough fags/alcohol and no under 16 has ever had sex?

    In other words, the search engines are not doing enough to take responsibility.
    so someone has to constantly check every image on the internet (as you could upload img001.jpg wait till google caches it as say a train then swap it for something illegal)

    You’re the people who have worked out how to map almost every inch of the earth from space who have developed algorithms that make sense of vast quantities of information.
    sorry that not much of a challenge its just getting data in in the right format with the right markers (gps coordinates) in theory anyone with access to imagery and a fast pc could do it

    But it used to be that society could protect children by enforcing age restrictions on the ground whether that was setting a minimum age for buying top-shelf magazines, putting watersheds on the TV, or age rating films and DVDs.
    and how many parents let kids watch non age appropriate dvd's?

    And, in a really big step forward, all the ISPs have rewired their technology so that once your filters are installed, they will cover any device connected to your home internet account.
    unless they force yopu to install software on each device to use the net how else could they do it but at a network level?

    A place where your children are safe
    better invest in a foam rubber room then. You can never have total safety the best you can do is teach your kids the basic rights from wrongs and let them work out the fine detail themselves

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    Quote Originally Posted by LosOjos View Post
    One of the images on their "related stories" is a very young child in a bikini... BAN THE MAIL!

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    Yeah so about those tabloid 'page 3' photos....

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    Quote Originally Posted by LosOjos View Post
    Dear God. You are right. I really honestly thought it was entirely a (justified) joke. But no. it is an acutal summary of the links on that page. How on earth do the people who run and write for that site live with themselves. Crass, hypocritical scum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff View Post
    Yeah so about those tabloid 'page 3' photos....
    That argument should be fun...

    The Sun [Well, page 3] is apparently loved by soldiers.

    So, it's "Think of the children" Vs "Support the troops"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-13 View Post
    That argument should be fun...

    The Sun [Well, page 3] is apparently loved by soldiers.

    So, it's "Think of the children" Vs "Support the troops"...
    I'll raise your hypothetical argument and give you real hypocrisy from the PM

    Cameron refuses to back ban on Sun's Page 3 topless images | Media | guardian.co.uk

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    To be fair to the Daily Mail readership from skimming the comments discussion it's very clear that NOBODY is actually in favour of what's being suggested. In all likelyhood I think the Conservatives will back down fairly quickly when the realise how the electorate are going to react to their suggestion of censoring the Internet.

    It'll be interesting to see how the other parties react to the proposal though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by X-13 View Post
    One of the images on their "related stories" is a very young child in a bikini... BAN THE MAIL!
    and about half the photos are clevage shots

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyinghaggis View Post
    To be fair to the Daily Mail readership from skimming the comments discussion it's very clear that NOBODY is actually in favour of what's being suggested. To be honest I think the Conservatives will back down fairly quickly when the realise how the electorate are going to react to their suggestion of censoring the Internet.
    If you sort by "best rated" a few people are calling the Mail out on their hypocrisy.

    Quote Originally Posted by sted View Post
    and about half the photos are clevage shots
    Ah, so they're going for the OTHER "think of the children"

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff View Post
    I'll raise your hypothetical argument and give you real hypocrisy from the PM

    Cameron refuses to back ban on Sun's Page 3 topless images | Media | guardian.co.uk
    ~Facepalm~

    Back to my previous statement. Does anyone know how I can start my own country?

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    Here's another interesting angle (I can't find an article on it yet but the details are all there):
    TalkTalk have developed an ISP level porn filter.
    Their CEO, "Dido Harding," was at Uni with David Cameron (and is also a big Tory donor).
    As we all now know, Cameron is planning to force all ISPs to enforce filtering.

    So, what's a bet he pushes the ISPs to use the technology developed by TalkTalk, thus netting his classmate millions? Could it be this is all just another Tory knees up? (Before I get called out for "Tory bashing" let me reiterate - I distrust all political parties equally!)
    Last edited by LosOjos; 22nd July 2013 at 02:07 PM. Reason: Grammar

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