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    Will Google pull out of the UK?

    Does Cameron really think that child abuse images are easily found with a google search?

    If it was that easy I'm sure Google would have already fixed it but the answer is that no it's not.

    Ben

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonofsanta View Post
    I'm paraphrasing, but I was shown this quote on an e-safety course, and I quite liked it:
    To keep our children safe around swimming pools we can install fences, wire up pool alarms, provide life jackets and supervise our children constantly. Or we can teach our children to swim.
    It's the best analogy I've heard for the issue of online safety.
    or just remove the water and fill the hole with playground tiles which seems closer to what they are trying to do

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    I shall be opting out. I don't want external filtering, and I'm damn sure it'll play hob with the missus webdev stuff somehow. As far as the kids go, when they're old enough for me to worry, I've got an R-Pi running dansguardian that I can bring in to do the rudimentary stuff, and educate them for the rest. I pay for internet access, not a partial version thereof. Unless of course they're willing to allow me to make a partial payment for partial services rendered?

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    Let's not be hasty, fellow EduGeekers. Think about it, this will cure our frustrations of seeing people not being able to type in the Queen's English properly and scare all the chavs from typing out words incorrectly now, such as 'coming' - you get the idea. Effective, nice work DC! DC Comical more like.

    I'll be opting out, too bad I'm 99.9% likely to be labelled a pervert because of it but I don't pay for my internet access to have a Whiney Shiney-Forehead Pillock come along and say "Sorry young man, I must block you from seeing this photo gallery of the national art gallery museum because it displays a naked statue of a man with his winkle showing while holding his child in his arms. Good day to you." and, like the majority of the country, we're all mature and educated enough to deal with this problem ourselves and actually educate our children on how to use technology/the internet (luckily I have no children, that I know of, yet. Phew!) - so why not instead support the parents who are not all clued up on e-safety/the internet/technology and teach them simple methods of how to protect their kids, such as knowing their passwords or checking internet history, and deal with the parents who simply don't give a hoot.

    I don't condone child abuse or anything like that, that's not why I'm angry. I'm angry because they've automatically jumped on the "BLAME THE INTERNET/TECHNOLOGY!" bandwagon, like they do every single time, and are penalising the entire country for it.
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    Filtering is a battle we are losing; education is the answer as many have said.

    Years ago I can remember an irate Humanities teacher coming to complain that one of her students had searched on Google images and had found a photo of a near nude lady. When I asked her what the student had searched for she said 'british actresses'...... my reply then was shall we block 'british' or 'actresses' ?

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    Cameron's answer would seem to be "block British"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by plexer View Post
    Will Google pull out of the UK?

    Does Cameron really think that child abuse images are easily found with a google search?

    If it was that easy I'm sure Google would have already fixed it but the answer is that no it's not.

    Ben
    I thought something similar earlier.

    So google.co.uk is defaulted to uber strict safe search turned on. Fair enough, what happens when I go to google.com? Auto-redirect to google.co.uk based on originating IP? Fine, what if I use a VPN or transparent proxy? I'm guessing ISP's will be asked to block these then?

    I tell you it's like being at school

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattx View Post
    http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23401076

    So after cutting their funding, the moron announces this !!
    You could not make it up.
    Thats right Dave, all pedos use google to search for their stuff. You idiot.
    To be a little bit fair I am not surprised by this, nor am I massively for or against.

    Problem is there are parents who simply don't care, I have met many of them. They know the dangers of the internet but their attitude is "If my kids access it I don't really care" and I wish I was joking on that quote as well......

    There are parents like my older sister who has it setup on all internet equipment in her house and monitors what her kids are doing including limiting Facebook access and knowing their passwords. Any sign of abuse then they lose it, prime example would be my nephew decided to use Youtube to access naked women and he lost access to that. Although on a funny note he did say "So what, means im straight", for a 13 year old it made me laugh.

    If parents took more responsibility then perhaps we wouldn't be in this situation to begin with?

    Only my view though.

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    On the upside, presumably that bastion of right wing journalism (ha!) "The Sun" will be blocked as it contains ... pornographic content!

    Expect "Barmy Swivel Eyed Loons Ban British Boobies" or similar headlines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcstru View Post
    On the upside, presumably that bastion of right wing journalism (ha!) "The Sun" will be blocked as it contains ... pornographic content!

    Expect "Barmy Swivel Eyed Loons Ban British Boobies" or similar headlines.
    Oh some people will use the sad excuse that its "ART"!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by plexer View Post
    Will Google pull out of the UK?

    Does Cameron really think that child abuse images are easily found with a google search?

    If it was that easy I'm sure Google would have already fixed it but the answer is that no it's not.

    Ben
    Given this and the tax issues it would not surprise me if Google (and others) decide it's not worth the time and effort. They can still participate in the UK market without a UK office of course. To my mind it's not useful to be driving technology companies away when we still have such big economic issues.

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    You know, I see why the gay marriage bill was delayed and passed when it was. Plenty of liberty-based smoke and mirrors to try sneak a Police State under our noses. "Look at us, we are British and all liberal and give our people choice! Now don't visit that website and stop looking at Wikileaks, we will be banning all diplomatic cables on news websites next week anyway. After our friends at GCHQ have finished monitoring everything coming in and out of the country of course."

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    Between this and the US's SOPA, we're fast heading for an Internet where the only type of website that will be allowed to exist (or at least be "risk-free" enough for anyone to bother) will be corporate websites. They're trying to turn the Internet in to a digital business card database.

    Of course, it'll never happen - there are already hacker groups planning to build an alternative, free Internet system but it certainly seems to be what various governments are aiming for.

    Remember people, this is not a democracy. You can vote when they tell you to vote. You can vote on what they tell you to vote on. You will swallow your medicine like a good citizen. They will do what they want and you won't argue. Now close your eyes and get back to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LosOjos View Post
    Now close your eyes and get back to work.
    XKCD #303 [Has XKCD transcended the need to be linked/posted? Is a simple comic number sufficient for the joke?]

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