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General Chat Thread, Gove at it again in General; IMPORTANT COMMUNICATION FROM GMB UNION Dear Colleague, As the Union for all School Support Staff, it is unfortunately with a ...
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    Gove at it again

    IMPORTANT COMMUNICATION FROM GMB UNION

    Dear Colleague,

    As the Union for all School Support Staff, it is unfortunately with a great
    deal of anger that we at GMB are contacting you today.

    The Education Secretary Michael Gove has announced that he wants to see ALL
    Teaching Assistants in schools lose their jobs.
    Yes, ALL Teaching Assistants to go, because according to him, there is no
    benefit to be gained from having what he considers to be a "mums army" in
    the classroom.

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    Thius has been in the news for a couple of weeks. GMB are exaggerating slightly, but the DfE's view is that Teachers should be doing their own chores and differentiation should cope with most learning need. Therefore, TAs are unnecessary in almost all cases.

    The DfE needs to get real!

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    My finger is not on the pulse. I catch up eventually

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    Forgiven. I am a school governor... I try to keep up as Gove's fag packet planning has such a drastic impact

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    Quote Originally Posted by elsiegee40 View Post
    Thius has been in the news for a couple of weeks. GMB are exaggerating slightly, but the DfE's view is that Support Staff should be doing Teacher's chores and differentiation should cope with most learning need. Therefore, TAs are unnecessary in almost all cases.

    The Gove needs to get out of office!
    Fixed?

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    An Open Letter to Mr Gove about Teaching Assistants



    (suffice to say, as with all Gove's ideas, this is daft and short-sighted)

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    I don't understand why anybody thought he was in any way qualified to set policies for schools, the man has never worked in a school in his life! On top of all that, the school he attended for the vast majority of his childhood was an independant one, so he has literally no idea how state schools operate.

    But then, would you expect anything less from this current crop of MPs?

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    The man lives on another planet - he has no idea how schools operate, nor anything about the multitude of jobs that happen in a modern classroom...

    This...
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    @korifugi

    Gove is a little high end. I only do the low end - mid table jobs.

    However, for petrol + 40,000,000, i'd do it.
    ...gives me an idea - what can you apply for on kickstarter?

    All I'm looking for is enough to hire @Sunnyknight to go and kick him square in the nuts (I was going to say the balls but that might get a bit confusing with Gove's predecessor).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sdrawkcab View Post
    I don't understand why anybody thought he was in any way qualified to set policies for schools, the man has never worked in a school in his life! On top of all that, the school he attended for the vast majority of his childhood was an independant one, so he has literally no idea how state schools operate.

    But then, would you expect anything less from this current crop of MPs?
    Out of interest, how many previous education ministers had worked in schools? Genuine question, as I have absolutely no idea.

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    Estelle Morris - She became a minister in the Department for Education and Employment and was promoted to Secretary of State for Education and Skills in 2001. She was a comprehensive school teacher.

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    Apparantly about 6% (out of 616, that's 37 MP's) + same again for Lecturers:

    http://www.smith-institute.org.uk/fi...ns-Britain.pdf

    That's just listed as ex-Teachers. I wonder it their are any ex-Network Managers (tmcd35 for PM )
    Last edited by tmcd35; 5th July 2013 at 09:50 AM.

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    I think less than 1/5 have operated within a business or run one themselves. I do think this gap in knowledge is really important as to how the country runs and generates growth. I agree also about applying new laws/regulations to education - little or no experience is just asking for trouble.

    In theory however even if the Government got its way, they'd be many legal challenges and protests. It could take 10 years to actually come into play. You'd think the country would have sorted out its finances by then.

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    Looks as if rather more education ministers haven't worked in a school than have, then - and that it's much more likely to continue this way than change any time soon. I doubt education is alone in this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by korifugi View Post
    The man lives on another planet - he has no idea how schools operate, nor anything about the multitude of jobs that happen in a modern classroom...

    This...


    ...gives me an idea - what can you apply for on kickstarter?

    All I'm looking for is enough to hire @Sunnyknight to go and kick him square in the nuts (I was going to say the balls but that might get a bit confusing with Gove's predecessor).
    @korifugi

    As i'm in need of some gear, 190,000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by broc View Post
    Estelle Morris - She became a minister in the Department for Education and Employment and was promoted to Secretary of State for Education and Skills in 2001. She was a comprehensive school teacher.
    Mmm, and she wasn't much cop either, although she was popular with the unions.

    AFAICT the problem is that the number of TAs has tripled since 2000. Instead of doing what they ought to be doing, which is offering assistance to children with SEN to enable them to integrate, they're now taking half or whole classes, and they're neither trained nor qualified for that.

    Anyone who's in favour of quality teaching in schools should balk at the use of semi-skilled labour. The teachers themselves ought to balk at it because it's doing down their profession.

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