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    Re: Want labour out? Please vote here

    Quote Originally Posted by MrHappy
    I would rather pull the pubes from my balls than vote for cameron
    Er..I don't know how long it's been since you've had a look, but from where I'm sitting, it appears that the job has already been done.

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    Re: Want labour out? Please vote here

    Hmm... The petition seems to be going well. I signed it a couple of hours ago, and the number of sigs has gone from ~8500 to ~10,500...

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    but by the end of the 80's the UK was in a hell of a better position that it was then.
    Try telling that to a miner or someone who has just lost their house because of the boom and bust economics policies.

    all ive seen is Labour turn this country into a place for the scum, immigrants, and wendy wide legs to thrive.
    Errr no, thats all you have either read or seen on TV. If you look at actual stats - the amount of people leaving the country and people enterering the country [ legally ] is about the same.
    The problem is the illegal entry into this country - which is a problem faced by most large rich countries.

    interest rates/banks/etc are unstable.
    Well are you going to blame the current party for that ? The first job Brown did was to hand control over BACK to the bank of England as the Tories made such a fcuk up over the economy.

    Public transport is on its knees in most parts of the country.
    Because Thatcher sold it all and privatised it !!!! Yet another Tory policy.
    If Labour had any balls they would get it back.

    What industry we do have left is still in decline,
    Again because Thatcher sold the family silver !!! I don't suppose you even remember the trade deficit that happened because of yet another Tory policy ???

    Evil motorists are bum-raped at every turn.
    Again, another Tory fuel tax plan introduced by Kenneth Clarke back in 1994 I think which labour still go by.

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    Excuse me sir. Did you go to school? Did you learn to read? Evidently you didnt. I suggest




    Quote Originally Posted by mattx
    Errr no, thats all you have either read or seen on TV.
    Just because your quite obviously too dense... oh forget it its like talking to a brick wall

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    I miss Screaming Lord Sutch with his inventive policies of making the European Butter Mountain into a ski resort, wheeling parliament around the UK so everyone got to see it and his famous slogan "Vote for Insanity - You know it makes sense!"

    As for politics ... I have a few friends who are civil (and uncivil) servants ... and the general opinion is that the majority of the time it does not matter who you vote for, the Govt still gets in!

    Both parties have good and bad points ... personally I tend to favour Tory but that is mainly because I still remember the tail end of the 70's as Maggie came to power. Lots of things improved, but she just went on a bitt too long.

    John Major did as much for the economy as Gordon Brown has done but they both have made cock-ups and lied a lot too ... then again, isn't that part of their job description?

    People also tend to forget that no matter what party is in most of the important committees are cross-party ... and this is where the balance of power is. These committees are not voted in, but chosen due to interest or expertise. *This* is one of the true benefits of our political structure, but it relies on no single party having an overwhelming presence in the House of Commons.

    People also knock the House of Lords, usually because of the peerage system, but you will often find in here the true specialist knowledge that will rip apart poorly constructed laws and strategies and send them back. *This* is a big buffer for the political system in the UK and the vast majority of Peers at the moment tend to make their decisions based on facts rather than purely how they are pushed due to their political whips.

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    One thing I always try to remember is that it isn't really possible for a new government to make many changes in its first term - 4 - 5 years is a tiny amount of time, and most schemes take over double that to implement. The true proof of the pudding is the second term.

    And from this government it has been evident that they have not tried to fix the mistakes of the old govt's but have instead made them worse in many areas.

    A new government is the only answer to the problem.

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    Did you learn to read? Evidently you didnt.
    Well I tried, found out I was Dyslexic. Still have problems everyday - in fact I seem to remember having a similar PM about it with GrumbleDook a while back as he is too.
    Good thing we can laugh about it ko ?

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    His point was that Labour have had their chance - and they messed it up. Ok, the others in the past may have been worse, but they still did a bad job. Or at least thats what I gather from it.

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    just because your quite obviously too dense...
    If you want to get into a debate then chucking one liners such as that back proves you are obviously not up to the challenge.
    I offered you a breakdown of my arguments in a constructive manner - its up to you to break those down and offer a proper debate back.

    If however you want to take the pi55 out of my dyslexia then I ask you to keep that off the open forum as it may offend others who also suffer.

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    I miss Screaming Lord Sutch
    I was lucky to meet him during a by-election for Uxbridge. All round nice guy who was VERY intelligent too - would have made a great MP !!

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    I have read alot about the Thatcher years but i was too young or not born at the time.
    Thatcher is like marmite "Love it or hate it?" ? some of what she did was good some was bad.

    This government has no balls against Europe or the USA. The UK was due to have money back from Europe what the UK invested in Europe, this was due to Thatcher. Suddenly Europe and so called poorer counties say we should not have it back.

    does anyone know if the UK got that back or did they leave it in the pot for others to use and abuse.

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    Assumptions are the mother of all feck ups. Im dyslexic too, so is my brother. It doesnt stop me from responding to what someone has actually wrote, and from ignoring the bits that go against my arguement.


    Ill re-write my response then. I dont read newspapers, or particulaly watch the news for the reason that 99% of it is misleading or downright lies. All the info i based my statement on were through personal experiance, for example;

    Being told by the dole im not a single mum or an immigrant so to feck off and stop moaning that ill die if i dont have any money to feed myself.

    Or how about my friend whos a single mum and lives in one of the poshest areas in the northeast, payed for by *our* taxes.

    That enough justification for my statement "all ive seen is Labour turn this country into a place for the scum, immigrants, and wendy wide legs to thrive."?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattx
    Again, another Tory fuel tax plan introduced by Kenneth Clarke back in 1994 I think which labour still go by.
    It may have been a Tory policy in 1994, but this is 2007. If the Labour party have still kept it all this time, I think it fair to call it a Labour policy now.

    Stances like "that was a decision made by the previous administration" are fine for a few years, heck, some policies take a little while to implement or reap benefit, but you can't hide behind that for ever.

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    I think it fair to call it a Labour policy now.
    I agree 100% - just a shame the current lot don't introduce a better system.

    Stances like "that was a decision made by the previous administration" are fine for a few years
    Indeed - but the points I am making is that some people don't realise just what policies previous governments introduced.
    A classic example is the council tax - introduced by a tory government and now abused by tory and labour councils up and down the land.

    It doesnt stop me from responding to what someone has actually wrote
    But does it give you the right to seek the weakness in that person and exploit it for personal gain ? Thats the sort of thing MPs do - maybe you should become one.
    Like I said, you can take the pi55 out of me all your like because of my dyslexia, but for the sake of others keep it off the forum as others may not hold the similar stance I do on the matter.

    And to get back to your:

    "all ive seen is Labour turn this country into a place for the scum, immigrants, and wendy wide legs to thrive."?

    statement - if you feel that strongly about it - and becuse of the nature and tone of your statement you obviously do - why are you still in this country ?

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    Are you honestly for real, or are you seriously that detached from reality that you can see things which arnt written?

    Where exactly did i "seek the weakness in that person and exploit it for personal gain"?

    In your world do people hook themselves into the net and somehow know someone is dyslexic before they even post?

    Come on, grow up eh.


    Oh and i will be leaving this country at some point thanks. Unless things improve that is. But in the mean time i think i have the right to have an opinion on what is right and wrong, or in your world do people not have that right?



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