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    Re: Has anyone ever managed to get themselves a payrise?

    I got one during my transition to full time. When they offered my fulltime I wasn’t sure so they bumped the wage up. Not a lot but enough to make it realise they appreciated what I do and wanted me here.

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    Re: Has anyone ever managed to get themselves a payrise?

    My problem is when my job description was written it was written thoroughly!

    I really dont think i've gained any more responsibility...just my work load almost doubled!!

    All i've got is that the staff like me lol!

    So from reading all your posts my plan is to find a similar role which is being paid more and try to think of any extra responsibilites i do have!!

    I'm one point off reaching the top of my scale..if they wanna keep me they'll have to sort my pay out. A couple more grand and i'll be quite happy for a few years i imagine...

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    Re: Has anyone ever managed to get themselves a payrise?

    Quote Originally Posted by webman
    In 2003 I started term-time on £8,894. In 2005 I was then re-graded to £11,887 and now upgraded to full-time on £15,096. It's still not enough for the responsibilities I have been doing but fingers-crossed something's getting done about that

    These have been achieved through standard pay review letters listing my additional responsibilities since the last time.
    Your lucky there with that nice new salary mate, wish I was that lucky.

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    Re: Has anyone ever managed to get themselves a payrise?

    Unforunately in my past experience, the best way of getting a decent payrise is to move to a new job. Where you will be getting paid for your current skill level. It is possible to do this in post, but is difficult in the private sector and even more difficult in the public sector.

    Hope you manage to prove me wrong though.

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    Re: Has anyone ever managed to get themselves a payrise?

    The irony is that (and this happened to me) when you get told that 'We can't pay you any more than your current level'. You then leave to find that your replacement is on several thousand more than you were, and works term time only!

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    Re: Has anyone ever managed to get themselves a payrise?

    I just got another one And a bonus. Well chuffed. I'm about £18k or so now

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    Re: Has anyone ever managed to get themselves a payrise?

    Quote Originally Posted by broc
    I collected job descriptions (with payscales) from job adverts in my & nearby LAs, plus jobs advertised on the Sector1 jobsite & built up a 'portfolio' of better paid jobs than mine, given similar responsibilities. Then I went to see our Bursar, convinced her that I was underpaid, made it clear that sooner or later I would get fed up with just looking at the vacancies and apply for a new job. I also pointed out how expensive it would be to replace me if I left, as they would have to match the 'going rate' anyway.

    At some point she discussed this with the Head, because a couple of months later the Head called me into his office & told me I was being regraded, and the regrading was being back-dated to the beginning of the school year (6 months). I went from scale 6 to SO2, a rise of almost £6k.
    i don't suppose you'd be willing to pass that research on?

    i was taken on at £16k with the promise of mcse & ccna training
    and now i'm due to complete probation they've me told that the training pots empty, but they can send me on an RM course - woohoo!

    have booked myself on the 70-270 exam anyway
    s'pose it'll mean more to me if i have to pay for it myself?

    neb

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    Re: Has anyone ever managed to get themselves a payrise?

    There are basically three ways of going about it:-

    1) Show an increased level or responsibility to what your post was originally. More work does not mean more responsiblity, but a section of the day to day that you now run without any line management - the school website is often a good example if they did not have one when you started but now you are responsible for running one.

    2) Deliver a list of jobs that are paid more than you but have a similar job description

    3) Leave and work somewhere else that will pay you. You can threaten to do this one but you have to be prepared to carry it out should the threat not work - personally I would not recommend it as it can backfire very badly.

    Personally I have been able to get a number of payrises since I started, mainly because of the extra responsibilities I have now got, but also partly because of other job offers that have come my way. These other offers have been useful because they just force the discussion and put a time limit on when decisions about pay rises have to be made. But again, I have never told SMT that I am considering any job unless I am genuinely doing so - the relationship has to be a two way thing.

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    Re: Has anyone ever managed to get themselves a payrise?

    Quote Originally Posted by nebapneb
    i don't suppose you'd be willing to pass that research on?

    i was taken on at £16k with the promise of mcse & ccna training
    and now i'm due to complete probation they've me told that the training pots empty, but they can send me on an RM course - woohoo!

    have booked myself on the 70-270 exam anyway
    s'pose it'll mean more to me if i have to pay for it myself?

    neb
    Hmmm someone else who found that out.

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    Re: Has anyone ever managed to get themselves a payrise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dos_Box
    The irony is that (and this happened to me) when you get told that 'We can't pay you any more than your current level'. You then leave to find that your replacement is on several thousand more than you were, and works term time only!
    too true.

    But i think the reverse will be true when I eventually move on from my current position, my bosses will likely envisage a very different role for my replacement and he or she will be on a considerably lower salary (they'll be lucky if they start on 3/4 of my current salary).

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    Re: Has anyone ever managed to get themselves a payrise?

    I went out and got offered a job at our City Council. Then went back to the head teacher and pointed out that no-one else knew who to run the network.

    Now I'm on SO2 grading and they have promised me MCSE, CCNA and CCDA training.

    Of course I'll wait and see if that promise actually happens.

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    Re: Has anyone ever managed to get themselves a payrise?

    Quote Originally Posted by dan400007
    I went out and got offered a job at our City Council. Then went back to the head teacher and pointed out that no-one else knew who to run the network.

    Now I'm on SO2 grading and they have promised me MCSE, CCNA and CCDA training.

    Of course I'll wait and see if that promise actually happens.
    Hope you get it mate, don't let them forget and, get it written in the head / bursars blood now and signed by them and the chair of govenors that they have offered and agreed to give you that lot, get them to put a date on it when they expect to start you on the courses etc rather than having it open ended to ensure they actually do it.

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    Re: Has anyone ever managed to get themselves a payrise?

    My situation is a little diffferent as i work for a private company providing many services for schools and business's. Im only on 14K. Any advice for me as im errrr "different"

    Also, how does this grading work as i've never seen it?

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    Re: Has anyone ever managed to get themselves a payrise?

    An example of gradings can be found on page 6 of this following PDF file.

    http://www.nottinghamshire.gov.uk/nj...trevision1.pdf

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    Re: Has anyone ever managed to get themselves a payrise?

    Start a rumer that your looking at other jobs because of pay. Worked for me, started on £11,500 in sep 2003 asked for a pay rise went to £14,000 in 2004, then asked for another in 2005 and went to £16,500, then i started asking for job application forms in 2006, that got back to deputy head who was very scared at the thought of me leaving and put me on £21,300 which i'm on now, and with job evaluation round the corner i fill all the boxes for the £27,000 to £31,000 pay scale, so i have my fingers crossed.

    Do you get along well with the people high up? that normally helps too.

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