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    Anyone Still running CC3?

    Just to get a rough idea of how many (if any) schools are still running CC3 - I'm interested because one of the schools I look after is still running this, and I can't believe they are considering how old the product is now. I'm trying to put forwards an urgent case for them to lose it this summer, but of course it means investing in some new infrastructure which they are really dragging their heels in agreeing to.

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    There shouldn't be a "putting forward a case". There should be "this is what you must do"

    1. XP support.
    2 if they use it, Sims support, due to the above
    3. Overheads - do they need CC3? do they even need CC4? could they achieve more using something else?
    4. Performance

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    I'm so glad primaries are wising up and getting school employed technical staff the amount of schools with problems like this. Some in Birmingham are actually getting proper IT Managers in at a proper wage scale too.

    Not as bad as one school a while back, the middle school techie had to go back to the secondary IT manager for approval just to change a toner.

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    We (a secondary school) are still using CC3. However, over the summer it is being swept away (in glorious cleansing flame... *ahem*) and replaced with a vanilla WS2012/Win 7 x64 setup.

    To do this we're using four new (to us, they're second hand) servers - three ESXi units and one backup server. The SIMS server will stay as-is for now as it's supported by the LA, and perfectly adequate. We're also buying new PCs to replace various bits of P4-era junk.

    I'd be happy to have a chat with you about it if you'd like? (PM me!)

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    Don't upgrade to CC4. Go back to vanilla. Wish we did

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    Still using cc3 here. Upgrading this summer to a loverly new San and vanilla windows server 2008 and windows 7.

    Just holding it together with sticky tape and string for these last few weeks :-)

    Most of my kit is nearly 5years old so having a complete refresh.

    No holiday for me this summer over 600 machines to rebuild but it will be worth it in the end.

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    Might want to point out that RM's support for CC3 ends on 8th April 2014 so you need something in place before this.
    RM Networks Product Support Lifecycle Policy

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickman View Post
    Just holding it together with sticky tape and string for these last few weeks :-)
    I know the feeling. Like keeping a sinking ship afloat long enough to reach the new one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickman View Post
    Still using cc3 here. Upgrading this summer to a loverly new San and vanilla windows server 2008 and windows 7.
    I'd hope you mean 2008R2... although you should really consider Server 2012 (it is much better)

    No holiday for me this summer over 600 machines to rebuild but it will be worth it in the end.
    SCCM is your friend... you'll be able to do much of the legwork now and, come day 1 of the summer holidays, you just take a leisurely stroll around site PXE-booting the machines. It is actually one of the most satisfying jobs in a school - I miss mass-building machines.

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    Of course if SCCM is too much, MDT with WDS will do the job of image deployment just fine

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    We migrated from CC3 to an SCCM managed vanilla network in the last summer holiday. Formatting that last DC with the CC3 crud on felt good. As with others, you're welcome to contact me with any questions if you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by synaesthesia View Post
    Of course if SCCM is too much, MDT with WDS will do the job of image deployment just fine
    My thoughts exactly - SCCM is overkill for our network, and would add another management load (on the PCs, and our own brains!), something we're keen to get away from. I've been getting MDT set up, and think it'll work nicely. Now we just need to get WDS sorted (can't test yet as DHCP is still handled by the CC3 DC).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ric_ View Post
    I'd hope you mean 2008R2... although you should really consider Server 2012 (it is much better)



    SCCM is your friend... you'll be able to do much of the legwork now and, come day 1 of the summer holidays, you just take a leisurely stroll around site PXE-booting the machines. It is actually one of the most satisfying jobs in a school - I miss mass-building machines.

    Yes 2008r2. My new support company recommended 2008r2 as this is a stable platform and to upgrade to 2012 when that's considered stable for our environment

    Getting wds for deployment.
    Last edited by pickman; 26th June 2013 at 10:33 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunnyknight View Post
    Don't upgrade to CC4. Go back to vanilla. Wish we did
    Same here...

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    I would recommend server 2012 and MDT. Server 2012 is stable and gives a lot of benefits. SCCM is too time consuming, breaks easily and not really needed for a secondary school.



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