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    Am I allowed to do this?

    Hi all,

    I have a CD player at home, what plays my CDS (obviously) but something is really starting to annoy me, the discs keep getting scratched and damaged or they are getting lost. CDs cost a fortune if u have a few to replace as you may know. Is it legal to make one copy of the original CD but the original away in a safe place and play the copy of the CD player and if it should get lost or damaged, destory the damaged one and make a copy of the original again?

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    Re: Am I allowed to do this?

    Strictly speaking, I don't think this is allowed.

    Having said that, in reality, I'm sure a great many people do it and I can't see it being a problem as long as it isn't an attempt at piracy (which in your case it obviously wouldn't be.)

    However, I am not a lawyer, and to be on the safe side you should probably check with someone with more legal knowledge than me!

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    Re: Am I allowed to do this?

    Thanks for your comments.

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    Re: Am I allowed to do this?

    You are allowed to copy Music you own... you can copy it to your PC, your Ipod, to tape for the car.. as long as you do not copy it to give away

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    Re: Am I allowed to do this?

    Ok thank you

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    Re: Am I allowed to do this?

    IIRC, its like sofware - you can copy it, but the original & copy cannot be used at the same time.

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    Re: Am I allowed to do this?

    It comes under fair use.

    Yes you are but they dont like you to think that way.

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    Re: Am I allowed to do this?

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    It comes under fair use.

    Yes you are but they don't like you to think that way.
    No, it doesn't. "Fair Use" is an American legal usage. I suspect that over here it is strictly illegal, but, just like compulsory archery practice, you'd be unlikely to be hung for it.

    You do all do your 2 hours practice a week, don't you?

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    Re: Am I allowed to do this?

    http://www.ncc.org.uk Is a good place to start as is http://www.parliament.uk/post/pn185.pdf.

    In essence UK law says the answer is no you can't, but in practice most of us do. :rock:

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    Re: Am I allowed to do this?

    Was reading an interesting article about this yesterday

    http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...world-plus-dog

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    Re: Am I allowed to do this?

    Friend who is a dj did this a few years ok. Got pulled up at a gig once by the law for having all copied cd's but when he showed them originals packed away safely at home they quickly left him alone.

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    Re: Am I allowed to do this?

    Be careful with what you read on the Internet about this issue, as US law is different.

    As I understand it, UK law does permit a copy to be taken for backup purposes, although that probably means that you should continue to listen to the original, not your copy.

    Interestingly, as that second copy is solely for backup purposes, this actually makes ipods illegal (but that's another discussion altogether!)...

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    Re: Am I allowed to do this?

    In the UK there is no concept of Fair use, instead legally there is the idea of Fair Dealing.

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    Re: Am I allowed to do this?

    Legally: No.
    Reality: Yes.

    If you're going to use it for your own personal use, nobody is really going to know, and no company is going to come banging on your door to drag you off to court.

    That said, if you start selling/sharing your copies off to others you'll get shot if caught. Selling the original and keeping the copy is obviously not legal either.

    Basically UK law states that you absolutely cannot make copies at all, but people do it anyway. As for you: I would just make the copies. If its your own legally bought CD and you're the only one listening and just want to extend their lifespan then I can't see why that would be a problem, and nobody is really going to kick your ass for doing so.

    On a similar note: Copying CD's to Mp3 players is equally illegal, yet funny how there's such a market for such products and people still use them (ALSO funny that the music industry are beating up these Internet download sites but mostly leaving mp3 players/iPods etc alone!).

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