General Chat Thread, Are MI5 and the NSA eavesdropping on us all? in General; How many here have logs and records of what the kids and teachers are doing on the network at any ...
10th June 2013, 10:17 AM #31
How many here have logs and records of what the kids and teachers are doing on the network at any point of time? Just saying...
10th June 2013, 10:23 AM #32
That's slightly different however. To use the network and resources in the school the students and staff (and any guests) have agreed to an acceptable use policy where they're made aware of the fact that all use is monitored and logged. If staff and students don't agree they don't have to utilise our systems. PRISM was kept secret (although I do agree that it's pretty obvious after things like Echelon that the security services would have a follow on program) and there is no way to opt-out.
Originally Posted by CAM
10th June 2013, 10:34 AM #33
This document is interesting and highlights that PRISM isn't secret, it is "publicly" known about since 2008.
10th June 2013, 12:10 PM #34
But most companies that you deal with have sections in agreements and privacy policies that they will pass information on to law enforcement if compelled to. Technically we agree to that (even though in reality no-one reads the small print).
Originally Posted by Soulfish
10th June 2013, 12:19 PM #35
Blimey - I know they're bad - but to have an entire nation fear you is - well - quite remarkable really!
Originally Posted by Ephelyon
10th June 2013, 12:29 PM #36
Last year in New Scientist I read that cyber criminals had started to create their own internet. We will all be watched while the real criminals simple get around the security.
10th June 2013, 12:38 PM #37
I can't be the only one who got chills at the headline
As a far smarter man than I said, "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
William Hague: Law-abiding Britons have nothing to fear from GCHQ
Thanks to sonofsanta from:
10th June 2013, 12:46 PM #38
Haha... no capitals though! As it happens we're only a few miles from the school where one of them went.
Originally Posted by Gatt
10th June 2013, 12:56 PM #39
WAR IS PEACE
Originally Posted by localzuk
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
George Orwell - 1984
10th June 2013, 02:23 PM #40
Yeah, google Darknet and have a look at the Tor/Onion network there's loads of dodgy stuff going on around there (according to the papers - H*tmen/dr*gs etc etc.) and all payed for in Bitcoins.
Originally Posted by edutech4schools
See - http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=dar...PMOW0AWSvoCQAw
Last edited by Pyroman; 10th June 2013 at 02:25 PM.
25th June 2013, 02:03 PM #41
heard today from an interesting source that the reason the USA and AUS banned Huwai equipment wasn't because they contain Chinese back doors, but because they DONT contain backdoors.
And the reason the UK doesnt ban huwai equipment is that it taps the network at the entrance and exit nodes to the country.
25th June 2013, 02:09 PM #42
Does that mean that as long as your info is routing within the UK and not leaving our boarders it is not checked. And the reason the UK doesnt ban huwai equipment is that it taps the network at the entrance and exit nodes to the country.
25th June 2013, 02:14 PM #43
Theyve probably got a tap in all the 21CN cabinets on every street corner.
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