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    Thumbs down Woolwich Attack

    Not sure if many people have seen the news and the videos but its absolutely horrible how someone can do this to a serving soldier in broad daylight then speak about his reasons why on camera.

    Where is this country going!

    My thoughts are with the soldier’s family and friends

    Woolwich: 'Soldier Dead After Terror Attack'

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    According to a tweet from sky news they doubt it was a soldier…

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    Soldier or not, Still a shocking disgrace

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    Quote Originally Posted by glennda View Post
    According to a tweet from sky news they doubt it was a soldier…
    ahh good old sky news, always a reliable source of informed, unbiased "journalism"

    that aside
    the incident itself is terrible, i do hope that catch the person
    Last edited by ConradJones; 22nd May 2013 at 10:20 PM.

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    MOD haven't confirmed if they were a soldier or not so could be anyone. Another theory is that he was targeted due to a Help for Heroes shirt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConradJones View Post
    I do hope that catch the person
    The person who did it didn't flee the scene. There's a video of him in the article below.

    www.itv.com/news/update/2013-05-22/exclusive-video-man-with-bloodied-hands-speaks-at-woolwich-scene/

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    sorry wasn't fully reading/watching before.

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    Unbelievable!



    Apparently this is what happened...

    • Two black men run over a white man in a car, then get out of the car and start chopping his head off with a meat cleaver.
    • People were asking why, they replied, "We've just had enough."
    • Woolwich police turn up, but have to wait for firearms officers.
    • Firearms officers turn up
    • Men approach firearms officers wielding a meat cleaver each and a 'rusty-looking' revolver
    • One man (no gun) approaches firearms officers, gets shot.
    • Second man (gun) tries to fire the gun at firearms officers, it backfires in his hand, blowing his finger off
    • Firearms officers shoot second man.

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    BBC Breakfast News has just confirmed that the guy who was attacked was a member of the armed services [No other details supplied]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur View Post
    Unbelievable!



    Apparently this is what happened...

    • Two black men run over a white man in a car, then get out of the car and start chopping his head off with a meat cleaver.
    • People were asking why, they replied, "We've just had enough."
    • Woolwich police turn up, but have to wait for firearms officers.
    • Firearms officers turn up
    • Men approach firearms officers wielding a meat cleaver each and a 'rusty-looking' revolver
    • One man (no gun) approaches firearms officers, gets shot.
    • Second man (gun) tries to fire the gun at firearms officers, it backfires in his hand, blowing his finger off
    • Firearms officers shoot second man.

    You miss the steps where several women tried to to protect the slaughtered man in the road, and another remonstrated with one of the murderers telling him that "there are many of us, and few of you, you will lose" or something to that effect.

    Plus there is a 20 minute gap between the attack the police doing anything.

    I don't think anyone should call this terrorism - it should be called insanity as only the insane could do this sort of thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    I don't think anyone should call this terrorism - it should be called insanity as only the insane could do this sort of thing.
    Totally agree.

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    Absolutely - insanity rather than terrorism
    One little thing worried me - on the radio someone commented that the attackers were of "muslim appearance". What on earth does that mean? How can a religion have an appearance.
    The guy I saw on TV was a black guy who was of "African appearance" if anything - and he sounded VERY english (he even said "our troops" at one point)

    Interested in what @localzuk said about people trying to protect the guy - I wondered why noone seemed to do anything much - I wondered if it was because it was all so quick.
    I wonder what the woman standing in front of the guy ranting, holding a cleaver and with blood dripping off his hands, was thinking

    * @DeltaBravo Surely it is terrible for this to be done to ANYONE?
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    Quote Originally Posted by witch View Post
    Absolutely - insanity rather than terrorism
    One little thing worried me - on the radio someone commented that the attackers were of "muslim appearance". What on earth does that mean? How can a religion have an appearance.
    The guy I saw on TV was a black guy who was of "African appearance" if anything - and he sounded VERY english (he even said "our troops" at one point)
    That was the description given to officials by the police, who then passed it on to the media. So, potentially, it could be some proof of "institutional racism"...

    Interested in what @localzuk said about people trying to protect the guy - I wondered why noone seemed to do anything much - I wondered if it was because it was all so quick.
    I don't think it was all particularly quick! The initial murder was quick, from eye-witness reports, but then they stood around ranting for 20 minutes until the armed police arrived and shot them. I'd hazard a guess that it would be a mix between shock and the whole "bystander effect" whereby people don't do anything because they think other people will be dealing with it.

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    I meant that actual attack was quick which is why no one actually tried to stop them.

    It appalls me that the police could describe someone who is other than chalk white as "of muslim appearance" unless they were wearing a burkha or a sign. Definitely institutional racism.

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    I have really no words for all this. Am just sickened to my core that this atrocity has been carried out in our streets. My heart goes out to this young man's family.



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