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General Chat Thread, Multiple ePetitions: Ian Duncan Smith To Live On 53 A Week in General; Iain Duncan Smith: I have already lived on 53 a week and petition calling on me to do so again ...
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    I think it is obvious where the complete stunt is.....

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    "People would struggle on 53pw".

    Isn't that the whole point? The fact that many people choose benefits as a career choice proves its too easy to live on benefits. I i support any changes to make it more of a struggle.

    My family, friends and I have all been on benefits for prolonged periods of time. One reason for this is its hard to get on the dole and easy to stay on it. It can take upto 6 weeks before you get your first payment. This means that unless you can guaranty work for at least a few months its stupid to take a job as if the work dries up after a few weeks you've got 6 more to wait after that before you see any more money.
    Last edited by j17sparky; 3rd April 2013 at 12:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattx View Post
    But it's ok though as Dave says we are all in this together [ after giving the higher earners tax breaks ]
    Looking forward to seeing IDS [ or his butler ] in poundland......
    That's almost exactly what a labour party spin doctor would say....

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    Quote Originally Posted by zag View Post
    That's almost exactly what a labour party spin doctor would say....
    Is it ? I'm no doctor I can tell you, I also don't have any affiliation to any party. Why would I ? They are all a bunch of idiots who see the fact they are in this for a career and not as what it should be - the privilege of representing one's community.

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    Its a fine line. There are alot of scroungers on benefits but will they really kerb their money if the kids are in poverty. My wife is a teacher in the middle of a big council estate and some of the kids don't get breakfast on a morning or have clean clothers but their parents smoke or drink 3 nights a week... will cutting their cash improve the kids lives... defo not, they will suffer but what can be done to improve this... its like when the government raise fuel duty to try and stop pollution.. it never does it just hits people in the pockets. Personally... I would vote for a cull to get rid of the no job brigade with more than 3 criminal covictions but thats a bit extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simcfc73 View Post
    Its a fine line. There are alot of scroungers on benefits but will they really kerb their money if the kids are in poverty. My wife is a teacher in the middle of a big council estate and some of the kids don't get breakfast on a morning or have clean clothers but their parents smoke or drink 3 nights a week... will cutting their cash improve the kids lives... defo not, they will suffer but what can be done to improve this... its like when the government raise fuel duty to try and stop pollution.. it never does it just hits people in the pockets. Personally... I would vote for a cull to get rid of the no job brigade with more than 3 criminal covictions but thats a bit extreme.
    Well that's half of Luton gone then....

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    It is shocking that someone who (probably) works in a school would advocate the death sentence for "the no job brigade". Wow. That's some pretty impressivly uneducated/small-minded Daily Mail style rhetoric you're touting there, @Simcfc73.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sdrawkcab View Post
    It is shocking that someone who (probably) works in a school would advocate the death sentence for "the no job brigade". Wow. That's some pretty impressivly uneducated/small-minded Daily Mail style rhetoric you're touting there, @Simcfc73.
    I think they are known as Precariats now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sdrawkcab View Post
    It is shocking that someone who (probably) works in a school would advocate the death sentence for "the no job brigade". Wow. That's some pretty impressivly uneducated/small-minded Daily Mail style rhetoric you're touting there, @Simcfc73.
    WHOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

    Have you ever thrown a bin through a McDonalds window or been kettled by any chance..??

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    Quote Originally Posted by tech_guy View Post
    Well that's half of Luton gone then....
    More along a quarter, but I do agree with the sentiment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simcfc73 View Post
    WHOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
    Oh this was all a joke? It's not amazingly clear from your post. I think I can be forgiven for missing it anyway because it wasn't a particularly funny one.

    will cutting their cash improve the kids lives... defo not, they will suffer but what can be done to improve this...
    Get companies like Starbucks and Vodafone to pay their taxes? Stop giving tax discounts to high earners who definitely don't need them and instead focus spending in the right areas? Stop making it harder and harder for small businesses to compete with large companies? There are quite a few things that can be done. The problem is that for some reason the media/government keep spreading this idea of "benefits scroungers" - a group people who barely exist and aren't actually causing anywhere near the level of trouble that Davey C and the boys (and the press) would have you believe. Maybe we should address the fact that there just aren't enough jobs rather than punishing those without them?

    Have you ever thrown a bin through a McDonalds window or been kettled by any chance..??
    Ha ha. I've never thrown a bin through a McDonalds window but I have been kettled. Then again, if you've been at any public gathering/protest in the last 10 years or so you will have been too. For me it was for an anti-Iraq war protest. What was the point you were trying to make again?

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    Vouchers. Give the serial benefit claimants vouchers. That can't be exchanged for cigarettes, alcohol or tattoos. I think you might find a sudden desire to seek work amongst certain members of society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tech_guy View Post
    Well that's half of Luton gone then....
    Careful - I'm flying out from there very soon !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tech_guy View Post
    Vouchers. Give the serial benefit claimants vouchers. That can't be exchanged for cigarettes, alcohol or tattoos. I think you might find a sudden desire to seek work amongst certain members of society.
    If you believe that - you really don't understand how life is lived!

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