I reckon HP are banking on the fact that a lot of enterprise customers will probably want most of the accessories. Once they have bought the tablet for £442, they can spend another £200-£300 on accessories.
If you want Ethernet, you can buy an Ethernet dongle for £20.83 or the ElitePad Docking Station (Ethernet, HDMI, VGA and USB) for just £78.33 (ex. VAT). Or better still, both!
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Last edited by SYNACK; 30th March 2013 at 10:35 AM.
the docks wouldn't be rendered useless after 2-3 years?
Apple's Lightning connector does seem better designed than micro-USB, so it's easy to see why they didn't go with that.The European Standardisation Bodies CEN, CENELEC and ETSI (independent of the OMTP/GSMA proposal) defined a common External Power Supply (EPS) for use with smartphones sold in the EU based on micro-USB. 14 of the world's largest mobile phone manufacturers signed the EU's common EPS Memorandum of Understanding (MoU). Apple Inc., one of the original MoU signers, make micro-USB adapters available - as permitted in the Common EPS MoU - for its iPhones equipped with Apple's proprietary 30 pin dock connector or (later) "Lightning" connector. (Source)
To be fair it would not be hard to be a better connector than micro USB which is flimbsy and forceable in the wrong way - have seen teachers do it more than once.
Thunderbolt would be great especially for the future when stuff was avalible, I think they still need USB though just to keep options open currently for all the hardware that is avalible for it. Internal memory card is also great to give it a little more memory. I still think that there should be more with built in 3g and gps.
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Isn't one of the reasons people switch from Windows PCs to Mac's because they are fed up dealing with viruses and malware? From a customers point of view, Secure Boot is a good thing. All they have to worry about now is keeping their browser and various plug-ins up-to-date.
- Kernel mode drivers hiding themselves, like TDL1, TDL2/TDSS, MaxSS, Srizbi, Necurs, Cutwail, etc.
- Kernel mode driver patchers/infectors, embedding malicious code into core files of an Operating System, such as TDL3, ZeroAccess, Rloader, etc.
- Master Boot Record infectors such as TDL4, Mebroot/Sinowal, MoastBoot, Yurn, Pihar, etc.
- Volume Boot Record/OS Bootstrap infectors like Cidox.
- Disk Partition table infectors like SST/Alureon.
- User mode patchers/infectors like ZeroAccess.
Correct me if I'm wrong but there isn't much malware or virus's can do if the user has a limited account so long as your updates are rolled out effectively.
I agree with secure boot in principle but who are ms to dictate what I do with the hardware I buy! That's my beef. And again if you could reliably turn it off on ALL uefi devices then fine, but as previously posted I know of 1 device you can't. How many more to follow?
In addition to this in my current post of 5 1/2 years I haven't seen a single root kit on our hardware
plexer mentioned above).
Keeping on top of updates won't help you...
In 2012, 80% of vulnerabilities had a patch available on the day they were disclosed. This means that it is possible to remediate the majority of vulnerabilities, and that organizations and private users alike have a solution available for the root cause of security issues: vulnerabilities in software.
The fact that 20% of vulnerabilities are without patches for longer than the first day of disclosure, however, means that patch management is not sufficient protection – vulnerability intelligence and alternative remediation measures are required, if organizations wish to keep their IT infrastructure watertight.
It is unlikely that many more than 80% of vulnerabilities will have a patch available in the future, and it is realistic to assume that 20% is a representative proportion of software products that are not patched quickly – for example as a result of the lack of vendor resources, uncoordinated releases, zero-days or vulnerabilities in End-of-Life products.
Increased cooperation between vendors and researchers
That 80% of vulnerabilities have a patch available on the day of disclosure is an improvement to the previous year, 2011, in which 72% had a patch available on the day of disclosure.
The most likely explanation for this improvement in Time-to-Patch is that more researchers coordinate their vulnerability reports with vendors, which mean that patches are available immediately. (Source)SYNACK, I have also had to clear several rootkits from school PCs (Mebroot and Alureon come to mind).Browser security took a drubbing during the first day of an annual hacker contest, with the latest versions of Microsoft's Internet Explorer, Google's Chrome, and Mozilla's Firefox all succumbing to exploits that allowed attackers to hijack the underlying computer.
The Pwn2Own contest, which is sponsored by HP's Tipping Point division, paid $100,000 for the successful exploitation of IE 10 running on a Surface Pro tablet powered by Windows 8. The attack was impressive because it was able to bypass a variety of anti-exploit technologies Microsoft has added to its flagship operating system and browser over the past decade. To succeed, researchers from France-based Vupen Security had to combine multiple attacks, a technique that is growing increasingly common.
"We've pwned MS Surface Pro with two IE10 zero-days to achieve a full Windows 8 compromise with sandbox bypass," the firm announced by Twitter on Wednesday.
Day 1 also saw the full compromise of Chrome 25 on Windows 7, another impressive feat because it also required contestants to bypass security defenses Google developers have invested considerable resources in. The exploit also fetched its creators $100,000.
"We showed an exploit against previously undiscovered vulnerabilities in Google Chrome running on a modern Windows-based laptop," the winning, two-man team from MWR Labs wrote in a blog post. "By visiting a malicious webpage, it was possible to exploit a vulnerability which allowed us to gain code execution in the context of the sandboxed renderer process. We also used a kernel vulnerability in the underlying operating system in order to gain elevated privileges and to execute arbitrary commands outside of the sandbox with system privileges." (Source).
There's actually a higher chance of getting infected with malware by visiting primary school websites than there is from going to a porn or gambling site.
As recently mentioned in the Sophos Security Threat Report, 80% of the websites where we detect malicious content are innocent sites that have been hacked.
Recently SophosLabs has seen a flurry of detections of Troj/Iframe-JG on legitimate websites, including:
- Primary School websites in England
- Small community websites in Italy
- A nightclub website in London
- The website of an East African nation's TV company
- The website of trade association of Financial Advisors in the US
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Fair enough, point taken. But why can't I still install a different os onto hardware I have bought, which I believe is the original point
They make diesel cars that only run diesel, and petrol cars that only run petrol - now I know that in the past you could actually make a petrol engine run on diesel after warming it up with petrol. Now this was in no way supported by the manufacturer, required modification as it was not designed to run that and voided the hell out of any warrenty.
I know it is not the same at all but if they want to why can't they? Do they need to market them as Windows PCs (which they do already)? Do they need to add a Windows PCs may contain Windows sticker on the side, like the hot coffee may be hot stickers on cups.
Not saying that I agree with manufacturers blocking out the option to put other things on but why should they have to develop for a system they never intend to support, is there some UN mandated human right to install Linux on everything with a power cord that I am not aware of. Yes you have brought the hardware but with Windows, if you asked the shop if it would run Linux and they said yes, then it did not you can just take it back. Why can't I install Windows on my blackberry or someone's ipad, they are also computers which have much heavier lockouts than this. Again not that I agree, it's just that all this is because it is MS, everyone else has been getting away with it for years now with no action at all.
EDIT: as below it looks like MS has gone out of their way to make it possible for other systems, by turning it off it just removes that extra layer of security that now exists and that they have chosen not to implement.
Last edited by SYNACK; 1st April 2013 at 12:47 PM.
- Use a Linux distro that supports Secure Boot e.g. Ubuntu 12.10, Fedora 18 or later
- Ensure you buy a Windows 8 certified PC. OEMs are required to provide a method for disabling Secure Boot in the UEFI BIOS.
Source: Windows 8 Hardware Certification Requirements (p122)
You can't blame Microsoft if some OEMs choose to sell non-certified Windows 8 PCs and do not allow end-users to disable Secure Boot.
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