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    What was the first 'modern' smartphone?

    This has been nagging at me for ages now, and this article from Wikipedia annoys me slightly: Smartphone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia as it (IMO) goes back too far.
    So my question is this. What is the first true 'modern' smartphone? I remember back in about 2005 one of the staff in the pace I was working had a HP iPaq (6310?) that was a phone coupled with a PDA running a version of Windows. It was quite a nice device for the time as well. So to set a criteria for this and to define a 'modern' era phone it most meet the following criteria:


    • Combine the functionality of a phone and PDA
    • Have a touch screen (keyboard optional)
    • Able to access the internet via a system other than wi-fi/bluetooth/tethering i.e WAP/3G
    • Support the sending and receiving of email
    • Have a camera
    • Be able to install software from third parties
    • Natively support media playback and storage
    • To fit into a pocket easily



    I was going to include GPS as a feature but it was still a novelty in many phones until a few years ago. Anyway, over to you guys. Lets see what you can come up with and don't hesitate to suggest new criteria (please note it must be a universal criteria and not a feature that favours a single manufacturer/product).

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    02 did somethign in the early 2k's... can't remember what it was but it was a phone with extra functionality.

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    My old Nokia 7650 hit all those except touchscreen (which I don't actually think is vital in considering a 'smartphone')

    Nokia 7650 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Might be a Palm Treo that was older though?

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    I hate to say it, but given the criteria it wouldn't surprise me if it is the iPhone. I'm sure you can think of something wrong with all contenders prior to that. For my money the Nokia Communicator 9100 should be considered the first Smartphone, but that relied on a keyboard and didn't have much in the way of media playback and storage to my knowledge, don't even think they had cameras.

    The Palm Treo's are another very good contender, but again I'm sure they all had keyboards for some reason even though the Palm Pilot didn't. Again no camera and little media playback. Internet on all these devices so far would have been WAP, so not real web pages.

    The Compaq iPaq might be a close as you get but I don't remember them having a camera either...

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    This is why I was looking for 'modern'. I should have added wi-fi and/or bluetooth as part of the criteria though thinking about it!

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    Then I defy anyone to say it wasn't the first iPhone!

    Apple were never a revolutionary company but they have always been one of the best evolutionary companies out there. They saw the Palm Pilot, The Nokia 9100, the Camera phones and 2G WAP Internet phones, the MP3 players and put them all be in one device.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmcd35 View Post
    Then I defy anyone to say it wasn't the first iPhone!

    Apple were never a revolutionary company but they have always been one of the best evolutionary companies out there. They saw the Palm Pilot, The Nokia 9100, the Camera phones and 2G WAP Internet phones, the MP3 players and put them all be in one device.
    It wasn't. HTC were releasing devices before that with all of the required criteria in place. Often these devices were re-branded such as the iMate K-Jam (HTC Wizard) which I was once issued with in 2006. The iPhone came out in June 2007.

    HTC Wizard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmcd35 View Post
    Then I defy anyone to say it wasn't the first iPhone!
    HTC touch. boom. HTC Touch - Full phone specifications

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    I'd be looking at the 02 XDAs personally, they had a pile of them. The XDA IIi or IIs in late 2004/early 2005 predates the iPhone and fits all of the criteria.

    The Palm Treo 650 was released at the same time and also meets the criteria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Domino View Post
    My old Nokia 7650 hit all those except touchscreen (which I don't actually think is vital in considering a 'smartphone')

    Nokia 7650 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Might be a Palm Treo that was older though?
    Agree, I don't consider a touchscreen makes a phone 'smart'.

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    Nokia Communicator 9500 from 2004 fits the bill (minus the touch screen as discussed).

    Nokia 9500 Communicator - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Nokia 9500 Communicator Review | Mobile Phones | CNET UK

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    Sony P800? Think it fits the bill ~2002

    Sony Ericsson P800 - Full phone specifications

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flatpackhamster View Post
    Agree, I don't consider a touchscreen makes a phone 'smart'.
    It makes it a hell of a lot easier to use though This is why I am pointing out (one more) the 'modern' aspect of smartphones. If someone said they were going to issue you with a smartphone and you got one without a touch screen you'd be a bit miffed.
    It does baffle me as to why it took RIM so long to release one!
    Last edited by Dos_Box; 14th March 2013 at 03:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brucy View Post
    Sony P800? Think it fits the bill ~2002

    Sony Ericsson P800 - Full phone specifications
    It does indeed have a touchscreen, but no media playback (no headphone socket).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Domino View Post
    I had one of those!! It fits the criteria but I think there was something out before it?

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