General Chat Thread, Academy schools each facing software bill for £24k in General; Hi all anyone know anymore about this or what specific software she talks of ? its all a bit vague...
27th February 2013, 01:01 PM #1
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Academy schools each facing software bill for £24k
Hi all anyone know anymore about this or what specific software she talks of ? its all a bit vague...
Academy schools each facing software bill for £24k | UK | News | Daily Express
27th February 2013, 01:03 PM #2
I think it's to do with the re-licensing for SIMS .net. LA's usually bulk buy SIMS licenses direct from Capita for LA supported schools, but when a school becomes an Academy, the license is not transferable from the LA and the school has to purchase a SIMS license directly from Capita I believe.
Last edited by Rawns; 27th February 2013 at 01:06 PM.
27th February 2013, 01:04 PM #3
Sounds like it's about SIMS.
Le EDIT: BLARGH! Ninja'd.
27th February 2013, 01:09 PM #4
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Ah so I am not effected then as we buy direct from sims.net
27th February 2013, 01:09 PM #5
I'm sure we were discussing this like 2yrs ago. They're a bit behind the times.
27th February 2013, 01:10 PM #6
That article is talking about SIMS. A lot of LEA's, like Suffolk I believe, entered into a deal with Capita and the LEA rolled out SIMS to all schools. Under the deal, usually, the LEA does all the support work instead of Capita. Schools using SIMS under such an arrange have to purchase their own copy of SIMS upon conversion. This doesn't effect schools who has previously purchased their own independent copy of SIMS and are being supported directly from Capita, like us. Schools with their own per-existing copy only need to pay a £200 admin fee to transfer the license to the new entity.
There is a similar question over Microsoft licensing that I've never got to the bottom off. In MS's case volume licenses are attached to a Master Agreement. If that Master Agreement is held by the LA, as ours was, then I'm not sure the software can be transferred to an Academy, but no one at the LEA, Microsoft or our VAR have ever been able to confirm one way or another!
27th February 2013, 01:11 PM #7
2 Thanks to Rawns:
CyberNerd (27th February 2013), zag (27th February 2013)
27th February 2013, 01:34 PM #8
Not to mention, the re-licensing price has dropped since those heady days of £20k+ bills. You're more likely to see about £8k now than £20k, plus support.
27th February 2013, 01:42 PM #9
Never had SIMS from the LEA in 14 years +
Was Grant Maintained, then Foundation now Academy..
27th February 2013, 02:48 PM #10
old news... we've known about this since transferring and we are waiting for SIMS and Progresso's new owners to get in touch regarding licensing and costs at the moment we're still stuck on CMIS from link2ict.
7th March 2013, 01:39 PM #11
Just received the "Thinking of academies" notice from the head.
How much does it cost to replace software licences on academy conversion these days?
7th March 2013, 01:50 PM #12
Our Sim's relicencing cost us around £11,000 to buy the Licences as the LEA had bulk brought these tried various negotitations as a group of converter Academies about 6 of us and got around 30 % off buy going before a certain date. Also as a group renogiated few services with our LEA and got some price decreases for some of the IT Services they provide although was a bit of a minefield trying unpick some of the funding from LEA contracts as things were bungled together, well dodgy.Where we couldn't get a better deal or could do these better or cheaper in house moved away from the LEA.
Thanks to Steven_Cleaver from:
7th March 2013, 03:33 PM #13
For us the real big one was SIMs, as others have stated 10-20K depending. For us it was around 14k.
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7th March 2013, 03:35 PM #14
We paid something like £22k ages ago, but the school I was in last year spent about £14k IIRC.
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