+ Post New Thread
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 26
General Chat Thread, Sprinkler system in server room in General; Hello Just wanted to check I am not missing some important advancement / discovery in science where water no longer ...
  1. #1
    ozydave's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    228
    Thank Post
    66
    Thanked 31 Times in 20 Posts
    Rep Power
    30

    Sprinkler system in server room

    Hello
    Just wanted to check I am not missing some important advancement / discovery in science where water no longer conducts electricity
    Moving to a new build soon and they want to install a water sprinkler system in the server room. Not sure who thought this one up, local authority or builders.

    I can understand the need for a fire suppression system but water….
    With redundant hot swappable parts on server / switches etc, power supplies all sorts, I don’t want to be the one standing at the back of a server rack, hands in servers when the sprinkler system goes off by design or accident.

    Think my risk assessment will be to turn off everything including the UPS if I need to touch a piece of equipment in the server room.
    Kind of makes the redundant features of equipment redundant..

    Any got any thoughts or is it just me!

    Cheers

  2. #2

    Jawloms's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    793
    Thank Post
    157
    Thanked 102 Times in 71 Posts
    Rep Power
    178
    I had a friend who who was a NM, went on leave for a fortnight and came back to find a water sprinkler system had been installed in his server room. He isolated the power to the room and refused to turn it back on until the water system was turned off.

  3. #3

    Geoff's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Fylde, Lancs, UK.
    Posts
    11,800
    Thank Post
    110
    Thanked 582 Times in 503 Posts
    Blog Entries
    1
    Rep Power
    223
    You need to use a gas based fire suppression system in a server room. New installs tend to be CO2 based but I always have fond memories of the older Halon based systems. There's nothing quite like watching your PFY setting off the halon release then sprinting for the breathing apparatus before the oxygen gets forceably removed from the room and he suffocates.
    Last edited by Geoff; 1st February 2013 at 02:30 PM.

  4. #4

    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Posts
    144
    Thank Post
    17
    Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts
    Rep Power
    4
    Quote Originally Posted by ozydave View Post
    Hello
    Just wanted to check I am not missing some important advancement / discovery in science where water no longer conducts electricity
    Moving to a new build soon and they want to install a water sprinkler system in the server room. Not sure who thought this one up, local authority or builders.

    I can understand the need for a fire suppression system but water….
    With redundant hot swappable parts on server / switches etc, power supplies all sorts, I don’t want to be the one standing at the back of a server rack, hands in servers when the sprinkler system goes off by design or accident.

    Think my risk assessment will be to turn off everything including the UPS if I need to touch a piece of equipment in the server room.
    Kind of makes the redundant features of equipment redundant..

    Any got any thoughts or is it just me!

    Cheers
    I am sure if anything HAS to be installed like that it is meant to be one of those Halon systems, weirdly first knew about this system after watching terminator 2 :P

    This is a vid of it accidentally going off, naturlaly you wouldnt want to be near it when it does!!!


  5. #5

    localzuk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Minehead
    Posts
    17,095
    Thank Post
    511
    Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,784 Posts
    Blog Entries
    24
    Rep Power
    803
    Water based suppression in a room for electrical systems. Not the smartest idea on the planet!

    I'd point out that such an idea is preposterous and dangerous. I wouldn't go into a room like that!!

  6. #6

    elsiegee40's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Kent
    Posts
    10,046
    Thank Post
    1,680
    Thanked 2,021 Times in 1,495 Posts
    Rep Power
    673
    @Soulfish has the water feature installed in his server room... Not a good idea

  7. #7

    FN-GM's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    15,389
    Thank Post
    797
    Thanked 1,587 Times in 1,390 Posts
    Blog Entries
    10
    Rep Power
    427
    Legally there is no reason why it can't be disconnected.

  8. #8

    twin--turbo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Carlisle
    Posts
    2,334
    Thank Post
    1
    Thanked 381 Times in 340 Posts
    Rep Power
    149
    They were going to put it in our server room, We headed them off at the pass during an M&E meeting.

    They still put it in the second distribution room , but we had them disconnect it.


    And for the record..


    Water does NOT conduct electricity.

    Rob

  9. #9
    chazzy2501's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    South West
    Posts
    1,723
    Thank Post
    206
    Thanked 254 Times in 206 Posts
    Rep Power
    65
    if they used distilled water it'd be ok

  10. #10

    twin--turbo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Carlisle
    Posts
    2,334
    Thank Post
    1
    Thanked 381 Times in 340 Posts
    Rep Power
    149
    Quote Originally Posted by chazzy2501 View Post
    if they used distilled water it'd be ok
    Well , yes and no...

  11. #11

    Oaktech's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Bournemouth
    Posts
    2,463
    Thank Post
    678
    Thanked 451 Times in 363 Posts
    Rep Power
    229
    C02 FTW.

    I'd kick up an almighty stink. It would only take one rogue kid and a member of site management to be a second too late cancelling the alarm and the disaster recovery plan (we all have one, right?) would have to be enacted. No Thanks...

  12. #12
    Abaddon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Middlesex
    Posts
    566
    Thank Post
    66
    Thanked 68 Times in 63 Posts
    Rep Power
    59
    Halon is no longer used - we have an Argonite system installed in our server room. Not quite as human unfriendly as halon, but you still wouldn't want to be in the same room. There is a 30 second panic delay button installed near the door (just in case). The alarm that sounds is like the red alert klaxon on the USS Enterprise - how cool is that?

  13. #13

    Oaktech's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Bournemouth
    Posts
    2,463
    Thank Post
    678
    Thanked 451 Times in 363 Posts
    Rep Power
    229
    Quote Originally Posted by twin--turbo View Post
    Well , yes and no...
    But more... 'No'

  14. #14
    ozydave's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    228
    Thank Post
    66
    Thanked 31 Times in 20 Posts
    Rep Power
    30
    Quote Originally Posted by twin--turbo View Post
    Well , yes and no...
    That's good news I can have a shower with my hairdryer tonight then

  15. Thanks to ozydave from:

    speckytecky (2nd February 2013)

  16. #15
    mjs_mjs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    bexleyheath, london
    Posts
    1,004
    Thank Post
    37
    Thanked 108 Times in 93 Posts
    Rep Power
    36
    If you'r going to argue this point make sure you have your EPO's connected to your UPS's so that should the fire or ambulance service need to kill power to the room you also kill the UPS's.

SHARE:
+ Post New Thread
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 27
    Last Post: 21st February 2011, 05:15 PM
  2. Replies: 9
    Last Post: 28th April 2010, 03:58 PM
  3. Temp Monitoring in server rooms / Cab rooms
    By GrumbleDook in forum Hardware
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: 1st October 2009, 07:06 PM
  4. Environmental Monitoring in Server Room
    By pete in forum Hardware
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 23rd May 2009, 06:31 PM

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •