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    Quote Originally Posted by flyinghaggis View Post
    Looks really neat and, most importantly, it can take a full sized GPU card.
    Silverstone's FT03 looks quite nice too. It supports two graphics cards upto 13.77” long and the Mini version can take a 10" card (which would be enough for a GTX 670 or 680).





    Quote Originally Posted by flyinghaggis View Post
    The only serious drawback I can see is that the ITX board limits how much ram it can accommodate.
    Would you need more than 16GB RAM? 8GB DIMMs aren't that expensive (~£70 for a dual channel kit).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur View Post
    Why would you need more than 16GB RAM? 8GB DIMMs aren't that expensive (~£70 for a dual channel kit).
    I like using it for running virtual test environments and a lot of the Microsoft Server OS's need quite a lot of RAM these days. If you're running virtual LAN with a DC, Exchange, SQL then you start eating up the stuff pretty quickly so I'd prefer to have the flexibility to install more than 16Gb to be honest [I currently have 18Gb]. Like you say RAM's dirt cheap so £140 would buy 32Gb providing you have the DIMM slots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flyinghaggis View Post
    I like using it for running virtual test environments and a lot of the Microsoft Server OS's need quite a lot of RAM these days. If you're running virtual LAN with a DC, Exchange, SQL then you start eating up the stuff pretty quickly so I'd prefer to have the flexibility to install more than 16Gb to be honest [I currently have 18Gb]. Like you say RAM's dirt cheap so £140 would buy 32Gb providing you have the DIMM slots.
    Even running a few VMs and a server, 16Gb would still be enough wouldn't it? (4Gb host, 4Gb DC VM, 1Gb per Workstation VM?)

    Anyway, this is a home PC so doubt I'll be doing anything like that on it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawns View Post
    this is a home PC so doubt I'll be doing anything like that on it!
    One of the other benefits to having lots of RAM is that you can keep all of your programs open in the background while you are gaming. On my PC, Google Chrome alone takes up ~11GB RAM if I have lots of tabs open.

    Quote Originally Posted by flyinghaggis View Post
    I like using it for running virtual test environments and a lot of the Microsoft Server OS's need quite a lot of RAM these days.
    I also use my gaming PC for running VMs. This is why I upgraded it to 32GB - 16GB just wasn't enough.

    Quote Originally Posted by flyinghaggis View Post
    I'd prefer to have the flexibility to install more than 16GB to be honest
    I agree, but for a gaming PC 16GB is fine for most people.

    It's a shame an enterprising motherboard manufacturer hasn't made a mini-ITX motherboard with 4 x DDR3 SO-DIMM slots. It would cost ~£146 to have 32GB RAM (so only a few pounds more than standard desktop-sized DIMMs).

    With DDR4 on the way, it's unlikely we will ever see affordable 16GB non-ECC DDR3 UDIMMs for motherboards with only two slots.

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    For those interested, phase one has begun!

    Ordered a case and mobo which I shall be assembling on the weekend. I'll then look at getting the core components in a week or so.

    I went for this case in the end: Casecom K5-9388 Black Case with Blue LED 120mm Front Fan

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    Motherboard was this: Asus M5A97 PRO 970 Socket AM3+ 8 Channel HD Audio ATX Motherboard

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    Ex-display model too so saved a few bucks.

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    Im sorry @Rawns but blue LEDs?? ewww

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHR1S View Post
    Im sorry @Rawns but blue LEDs?? ewww
    LED's had no impact what so ever with choice!

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    I bought a Zalman Z9+ case which had blue LEDs on the fans...luckily the Zalman fans still perform with the LEDs punctured to stop them glowing

    http://www.zalman.com/global/product...ad.php?Idx=423
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawns View Post
    I like plain and simple looking cases. I'm not a fan of the monster gaming rigs that look like UFO's built them!
    Quote Originally Posted by Rawns View Post
    I went for this case in the end: Casecom K5-9388 Black Case with Blue LED 120mm Front Fan
    What happened to you between post #41 and #50? Aliens will be able to use the LEDs in your case to help them land the UFOs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur View Post
    What happened to you between post #41 and #50? Aliens will be able to use the LEDs in your case to help them land the UFOs.
    Apart form the blue LED on the front, I think it is a simple looking case! It's not huge and it certainly looks nothing like this monster!

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    Well, after some poor delivery on Parcel Forces part, I finally picked up the case and mobo today from the (not so local) post office!

    Well annoyed as despite the box being fine, the case was broken! The case fan that's meant to be attached to the roof of the case was snapped off and the fan cable broken, one of the removable the 2.5" bays was also snapped off at the brackets and bent, and the back of the case was dented in the lower corner making it near impossible to release the "easy undo" screws!

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    Return arranged along with a refund, so back to the drawing board again. I won't be going near Casecom kit again!!!

    Also slightly annoyed with the mobo. While it was an ex-display model, it has no driver CD, manual, SATA Cabels etc. It was listed as " "Open Box/Ex-Display - Product is in nearly new condition but may have been opened or have minor cosmetic damage to box or
    product. Product is sold with 90 day warranty which supersedes any other reference to warranty within product title or description."

    the new build is going well so far!!!
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    In the politest possible way, that case looks cheap and nasty! Probably for the best your returning it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHR1S View Post
    In the politest possible way, that case looks cheap and nasty! Probably for the best your returning it!
    Half the issue of online shopping. From the pics, I did not think it looked too bad. And the the front of the case did feel solid, but insides, it felt flimsy, and a lot of it seemed to be made with cheap nasty plastic.

    Maybe I'll do a bit of "shopping" in PC World and then order online.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur View Post
    Silverstone's FT03 looks quite nice too. It supports two graphics cards upto 13.77” long and the Mini version can take a 10" card (which would be enough for a GTX 670 or 680).



    @Rawns - I would be raiding my piggy bank for that one! Or a Fractal design case. You really do get what you pay for!
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    If you're on a tight budget I feel bad for you son, I got 99 components but a case ain't one )

    ahem... if you're on a tight budget, then I can recommend this case: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showp...odid=CA-018-XG



    understated, very quiet, decent amount of space and good air cooling for the price. Cable management could probably be better but I'll be honest and say my cable management involves cable ties on the most part!

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