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    Change to Copyright Licensing affecting all state schools

    DfE | Copyright licence deal to save schools time and money - In the news

    Schools are set to benefit after the Copyright Licensing Agency (CLA) and the Department for Education sign a three-year deal on the copyright licensing for schools.

    From April 2013, the Department will manage a national CLA Schools Licence for all state maintained schools in England. Schools need this licence in order to copy materials from books, magazines and websites legally. In addition, the deal will also include a new licence from the Music Publishers Association to cover copying of items such as printed sheet music.

    The move could save schools up to £6 million in total that can instead be spent on frontline school services.

    Schools Minister David Laws said:


    We are committed to reducing costs and red tape for schools. This new licence will free up schools’ time and help make sure they can spend more money on the frontline instead of back office administrative costs.

    This announcement follows the Government’s recommendations in the Hargreaves Review to simplify the licensing process for copyright users in the digital age.

    Jo Warner-Howard, CLA’s Head of Education, said:


    Schools were telling us that they wanted us to make licensing simpler and easier and we listened to them. The fact that CLA and DfE were able to work together to achieve this, shows it is possible to find positive solutions to difficult problems in challenging times.

    Currently the administration of the CLA Schools Licence is managed by local authorities. With an increasing number of schools converting to academy status with their own policy and budget, this has become problematic for those involved. New academies in particular have been faced with the cost and administration of managing licences and other services previously dealt with by the local authorities.

    The change will relieve local authorities and academies of the responsibility for administration of licensing. It will save around £1.6 million in 2013-14, but as more schools become academies the saving are expected to reach around £6 million. CLA will continue to have direct contact with the schools sector to increase awareness and understanding about the use of copyright material.

    ENDS

    This press notice relates to England only

    Notes for editors

    1. Schools can find out more about the new agreement on the CLA Schools website. It applies to all state maintained schools – local authority maintained schools, academies, and other types of schools such as Pupil Referral Units and special schools.

    2. The Hargreaves Review was an independent review commissioned by the Prime Minister in November 2010 to look at how the Intellectual Property framework supports growth and innovation.

    Chaired by Professor Ian Hargreaves and assisted by a panel of experts, the review reported to Government in May 2011 making recommendations for Government. This included a recommendation to simplify the licensing process for copyright users in the digital age. Further details about the review can be found on the Independent Review of Intellectual Property and Growth's website.

    3. About the CLA Schools Licence:

    The Copyright Licensing Agency Ltd (“CLA”) as agent for the Authors’ Licensing and Collecting Society Ltd, the Publishers Licensing Society Ltd, the Design and Artists Copyright Society Ltd and various reproduction rights organisations overseas is empowered to grant to schools a licence (“the CLA Schools Licence”) for the copying and re-use of extracts from the following material in which copyright subsists:
    • printed books, journals, magazines and other periodicals;
    • paid-for digital material; and
    • free-to-view websites.

    CLA will grant the CLA Schools Licence to state-maintained schools and resource centres within England on whose behalf the Department for Education will pay the Licence Fee.

    On the same basis the CLA, as agent for Printed Music Licensing Ltd., will grant schools a licence (the Schools’ Printed Music Licence) for the copying and re-use of extracts from and the making of arrangements of Printed Music Publications in which copyright subsists.

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    Well that's good news - still don't really get it, it's like say, hey, you know those annoying copyright messages, well you can ignore them if you buy this license... unless they've said you can't. But we don't define how they must do the copyright notice, so you have to go looking for the copyright notice. I guess it's a "get out of jail card"

    Also always nice to see people using open-source software - CLA Schools › Log In

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    I strongly suspect that many schools (obviously none that our members have a say in) simply ignore copyright legislation (particularly with regard to print/web - though I did think there was some "fair use" with copying bits from books in EDU) so buying one of these licenses would increase costs!

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    Hmmm how will this affect licence bullies like the PRS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAM View Post
    Hmmm how will this affect licence bullies like the PRS?
    Not really related. CLA is the licence that lets you photocopy from books (and have the most PITA audit possible, where you have to log everything in your repro department for three months, or something similarly time intensive). PRS is for music so if you still want to do the things PRS allows you to, you'll still have to pay them (and PVSL, and ERA, and PPL, and CCLI, and MPLC...)

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    Just to update - well, just to rant - I saw that the DfE also covers the CCLI Schools Printed Music Licence centrally, so no need to purchase that one. They do not cover the Collective Worship Licence which you will need to purchase separately.

    Which leads me to my rant. £318 a year for a school of 1000-1500 students to sing hymns. £318 to sing religious songs, out of copyright, in an act of religious worship. How is that moral, legal or justifiable in any way? I genuinely cannot see how they can claim copyright for compositions hundreds of years old. Where does the money go? And it costs even more for churches! Is the CCLI actually the Devil's own corporation, trying to bankrupt Christianity through copyright law? Bah!

    Luckily we sing no hymns in our assemblies so no need for it, but I am genuinely outraged right now. Down with this sort of thing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonofsanta View Post
    Is the CCLI actually the Devil's own corporation, trying to bankrupt Christianity through copyright law? Bah!
    Ironic that I read your name as the Son of Satan! No offence of course

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHR1S View Post
    Ironic that I read your name as the Son of Satan! No offence of course
    I fear that was actually the joke, once, many moons ago, when I was 16 and in search of a username for this new-fangled internet thing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonofsanta View Post
    Luckily we sing no hymns in our assemblies so no need for it, but I am genuinely outraged right now. Down with this sort of thing!
    And never have any carols at Christmas?
    We bought some music recently for the kids to sing along to (and yes, the extended licence to allow us to use it in more than one class at a time) with a theme of spring and some of the lyrics refer to Easter and Jesus. The documentation which came with it implied that we would need CCLI for them too - it's for worship songs, not just hymns. How do you get round the requirement to have collective worship of a broadly Christian nature without having any songs of worship?


    Edit: Forgot to mention that I find it completely outrageous too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmak View Post
    And never have any carols at Christmas?
    We bought some music recently for the kids to sing along to (and yes, the extended licence to allow us to use it in more than one class at a time) with a theme of spring and some of the lyrics refer to Easter and Jesus. The documentation which came with it implied that we would need CCLI for them too - it's for worship songs, not just hymns. How do you get round the requirement to have collective worship of a broadly Christian nature without having any songs of worship?


    Edit: Forgot to mention that I find it completely outrageous too!
    The only place hymns are sung by our students is at the local church for the Christmas Carol concert etc., at which point we are covered by the church's (£500) CCLI licence.

    The licence I looked at after CCLI was ERA+, which comes out at four figures. For content created by another public body and already paid for by my licence fee. GAH.

    (I know it covers ITV, Ch4, Ch5 etc. as well, but seriously - ERA+ is used for BBC2 and BBC4 programs. Maybe my school is just very middle class, though*)

    *yes it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmak View Post
    How do you get round the requirement to have collective worship of a broadly Christian nature without having any songs of worship?
    Only let the atheists actually sing??

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmak View Post
    How do you get round the requirement to have collective worship of a broadly Christian nature without having any songs of worship?
    By ignoring it, like most* schools?

    *Ofsted Annual Report, Standards and Quality 2002/03

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