General Chat Thread, Not been shortlisted for interview as I am a volunteer, is this fair? in General; I currently provide ICT Support at my local secondary school as a volunteer as the school doesn't have a dedicated ...
22nd December 2012, 12:27 PM #1
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Not been shortlisted for interview as I am a volunteer, is this fair?
I currently provide ICT Support at my local secondary school as a volunteer as the school doesn't have a dedicated ICT Technician and I wanted the experience on my CV. I recently applied for an ICT Technician role with a youth centre, and today I got a rejection letter from the education & library board telling me that I have "not been shortlisted on this occasion as you are working on a voluntary basis and therefore not eligible to apply." Does this seem fair? I already have a year of paid experience in a technical support role at a university and I am just doing this voluntary work to add more experience to help me get a full-time role.
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22nd December 2012, 12:55 PM #2
That can't be right? I'd get expert advice.
22nd December 2012, 01:05 PM #3
I'd say it depends on what their original application stated.
If for example it says "requires 2 years work experience" (or something similar), and you have 1 paid 1 voluntary, surely you don't meet that so they can choose to reject it if wanted?
Often unpaid work isn't classified as "employment" as it doesn't fall under a contract etc (again this may be different for yourself?)
If it's just refusal because you did any volunteering at all ofc that is wrong
22nd December 2012, 01:15 PM #4
Is it an internal vacancy, and therefore only open to people currently working for the Authority?
22nd December 2012, 01:20 PM #5
I'd recommend asking / joining Voice The Union I say asking as they might not be able to offer membership as your roe is voluntary but on the other hand it's just the sort of case they have great expertise in dealing with so you may be lucky and they take up for you anyhow.
22nd December 2012, 01:28 PM #6
Don't mean this to sound rude, but isn't that kind of ironic? If they won't let you join without being officially employed by a school, and you're asking if a job can be rejected if you're not employed by a school?
Originally Posted by speckytecky
Without knowing what was originally asked for on the application, jumping out to the union gun seems rather harsh personally.
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22nd December 2012, 02:33 PM #7
Whatever happens, they are unlikely to give you a shot at the job but why no to contact them and say it does seem a bit unfair? Let them know that you are really keen and have the relevant experience. Who knows, it might sway them into giving you an interview.
22nd December 2012, 07:52 PM #8
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Here is the original advert:
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22nd December 2012, 08:03 PM #9
I'd guess it's this line:
Originally Posted by KJK1LL3R
Were/are you on a volunteer agreement, or official contract with the school currently?
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ie: Boards, RTU, Staff Commission, CCEA, Youth Council, CCMS, NICIE & CNaG
23rd December 2012, 06:48 PM #10
That doesn't sound right, we have a volunteer techie at one of my schools and we are in the process of recruiting for a full time techie and i've said your more than welcome to apply!
23rd December 2012, 07:09 PM #11
Re: Not been shortlisted for interview as I am a volunteer, is this fair?
It entirely depends on the establishment. One place where I volunteered wouldnt put me forward unless I left the voluntary role and applied like any other applicant. Another allowed me to go ahead and kept me on as a volunteer even though I lost out to another volunteer.
Different places have different rules.
23rd December 2012, 08:08 PM #12
Again, it depends on whether or not the job advertised was an internal vacancy or an external vacancy (where anyone could apply).
Originally Posted by IanT
25th December 2012, 02:14 PM #13
I think it's a case of "We are getting their services for free, why not keep it that way?" Sad but true, you aren't the only person I have seen this happen to.
Also, you still count as working for the company no matter how much pay you get. I had a H&S briefing in my railway job and the group was told "You are volunteers but as far as the law cares, you are all employees of the railway paid or not."
12th March 2013, 05:17 PM #14
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Seek leagal advice
I sugest that you seek leagal advice here, what yoou are saying here could possible add up to act of Discrimination.
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