You love them regardless.
You love them regardless.
It's better than having miserable ones...
I think he may be right. I wouldn't want my Daughter to be gay, not because I have anything against gay people, but because if she is, she will have to deal with the widespread prejudice, intolerance and bigotry by the likes of David Davies. No one surely would 'want' that.
[ETA - when she told me she was gay, I said it was fine and I'd support her whatever, well, almost - I might struggle if she told me she was a Conservative.]
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I'm of the camp who thinks parents just want their children to be happy, safe, and have good life. What their sexual orientation has to do with it is a mystery to me.
Its not like they choose to be gay, but the goverment is choosing to make life hard for them. Would not suprise me if David Davies was a closet case since he has such an agenda against them.
Being gay myself I know you don't choose to be gay but do choose to be a bigot like David Davies.
Last edited by gmonks; 10th December 2012 at 02:09 PM.
He's right. The whole discussion goes very strongly against my belief that religion is nothing special. Making all this big brouhah about it is giving religion a special place in society and more consideration than I feel it deserves. If people want to marry someone, no matter who they are, why do a segment of society with a belief in an invisible sky giant get to say whether that's ok or not? Why aren't my atheistic views given the same venerated status as religion is?David Davies attacks plans to allow gay marriage, saying it 'goes against what a lot of people feel very strongly about'
I should point out that I have no problem with religion, just religious types trying to push their beliefs onto other people. Live and let live, I say.
All of which was my foolishly contentious way of chipping in that DD is an idiot, obv.
EDIT: love this bit near the end
"LOOK! I'm so open minded I even touched one once! I believe in discriminating against them and blocking their equal rights, but I think they can be alright sorts of fellows, so that's ok, yes?"Davies responded to criticism on Monday by tweeting: "Once fought gay boxer. Respect & like. Trained with after bout so not bigoted. Activists calm down – listen to other views."
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There's a suggestion that gay children don't want bigoted politicians, so hopefully this sort of thing will even itself out
Pyroman (10th December 2012)
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gmonks (10th December 2012)
Being gay nowadays is much easier than it was way back in the day when I first came out. Bigotry was far worse back then than it is now. Thankfully people are more enlightened now. Yes it can be a bit difficult at times in life but then straight kids have just as hard a time with certain things too. I think overall all our children have times when life is tough and challenging. As a parent I would love my boys whether gay or straight it is what a parent does. We cannot choose their lives for them but we can support them in whatever road they have to walk.
I'm surprised by this statement, David Davies previously struck me as one of the more reasonable Tories.
Surely the best oxymoron ever...reasonable Tories
CyberNerd (10th December 2012)
What we have to bear in mind is he is offering his view. Without an understanding of his background and his upbringing I don't feel he can be judged, it may be his experience that most parents he has met do not want gay children for whatever reason, such as the reasons pcstru said.
We have freedom of expression in this country and what he has said may be disliked by others but it is our right to express an opinion, let the voters decide at the next election if he has overstepped his place in politics.
I have no children so can't express an opinion on the topic itself.
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