mattx (7th December 2012)
PS - It's not a Tory government.
I think your copy of the Morning Star is poking out from your pocket.
Seriously, tell me what the Guardian is right on. It's wrong on the economy, wrong on immigration, wrong on the EU, wrong on foreign policy, wrong on practically every social issue going. Tell me what they're getting right because I'd love to know.
I could name 5 people right now at the top of my head who dont work and dont want to work and use any excuse not to. 5 at the top of my head is a high number, I also have heard stories from real people who have been told "Dump your Boyfriend and as a single mum you will get an additional 500 a month, nicer house and dont have to work". I was shocked the 1st time I heard that and the worst part is - she actualy went to see what help she could get with tax credits etc and that was the response she was given (no joke). She also knew some people who have two kids, 3 bed large house - all paid for.
Worst thing about all this is no one is coming up with a solution, we have created a culture who feel like they DONT need to work. You can not argue that fact, we have created it by giving out money left right and centre and as always the working class get screwed over. My other half was on job seekers allowance for a while and she admitted that she didnt feel the need to push hard to find a job, she would go for a few job interviews every now and then but put no real effort.
Benefit fraud is not what people are complaining about its those who get to live off the system and not work - they are doing nothing illegal. Problem is kids are now thinking they DONT need to work when they leave school, I know several students who have admitted they just want to get pregnant and get a council house. They say that because they see it often, some times their own parents.
Sorry bit of a rant here, having seen so many people through the years who just dont care and use one excuse after another why they can not work. The system is beyong broken and a revamp is seriously needed. As I said before create a credit system to pay bills, would any real honest worker complain about a credit system when they just lost their job to pay bills? I certainly wouldnt.
The arrogance of Flatpackhamster is astounding! That would be like me saying "The Daily Mail is wrong on every single front....Immigration, EU, foreign policy, etc etc".... Just because I do not believe in their politics!
It's always nice to TRY to see the other point of view, even if you are vehemently against it.
Without listening to other views, your argument will never change and that means you will never change as a person. If everyone was like that, we'd still be living in caves.
It is a sign of a civilised society that we protect the poor & needy. Unfortunately no system is perfect & there will always be a few people who exploit loopholes.... whether they are benefit claimants, global companies avoiding taxes or MPs fiddling their expenses......
I wonder how many people who are so hostile towards people on benefits have paid for work to be done 'cash in hand' to avoid paying VAT? Or have declared any income or gifts they have received for fixing the occasional PC or doing someone a favour? What about being paid for fuel to take someone to the airport/railway station? I suspect most of us at some time or other has broken the rules......
What about the small businesses who purchase items for family & personal use and pay for them as company purchases, presumably to claim as legitimate business expenses against tax..... or provide their wife/partner & kids with 'company cars' & fuel cards?
I have been fortunate to have been fully employed for most of my working life (40+ years) & I don't begrudge people who are in genuine need. I am willing to pay my share, however it saddens me to think we live in a greedy, selfish society where the politics of envy rules.......
aerospacemango (11th December 2012)
As @localzuk points out, correctly......
By being so closed-minded, you are not allowing yourself to grow as a person, and will always come back to insulting words and a vitriolic answer.Without listening to other views, your argument will never change and that means you will never change as a person. If everyone was like that, we'd still be living in caves
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