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    1) S
    2) 1360
    3) 2.2m x 3.8m
    4) No
    5) Yes - office and and a store room knocked together
    6) 4 Racks
    7) APC
    8) 3 Racks (Server etc) are 42U - 60cm wide and 1.1m depth, 1 Rack (Comms) is 42U - 80cm wide and 1.1m depth)
    9) Server Rack - 18U Servers, 2U ToR Switches (rest is empty), Storage Rack - 16U SANs, 3U iSCSI Switches (rest is empty), VDI/Backup Rack - 15U Servers, 2U Shelf for Mac Mini/Securus/Time Capsule, 2U Tapeloader, 2U ToR Switches (rest is empty), Comms Rack, 11U Patch Panels, 9U Switches/Routers/Firewalls/Ruckus Controller. (rest is empty)
    10) Server/SAN Racks, about 12 Amps Drawn and Comms Rack about 5amps. 15000KVA UPS is available that services all racks.
    11) Not sure
    12) Servers etc racks about 190-200KG, Comms about 100KG
    13) 10KW plus 7KW

    Thanks,

    Rob
    Last edited by robknowles; 22nd November 2012 at 05:55 PM.

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    3. 2m x 3m
    4. Yes, toner storage
    5. Yes, used to be a paper store
    6. 1
    7. Prism
    8. 19" x 42U don't know depth - standard depth
    9. 10U UPS, 1U environment monitoring, 1U Wireless controller, 3U fibre patch panels, 4U switch, 2U KVM, 18U servers, 3U cable management
    10. 32A available around 16A drawn.
    11. Don't know
    12. Don't know
    13. Don't know

    With 9 - 18U servers will become 9U servers soon, when 9U are retired, meaning 10 will also drop by about 4.5A.

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    1) S
    2) 1100
    3) 3.7m x 2.7m
    4) Some Minor Storage (Toners & Spare Laptops)
    5) Dedicated Room
    6) 2
    7) Prism
    8) 19" x 47U x 1200mm
    9) Rack 1 = 4U UPS (2x 2 UPS), 4U Hitachi SAN, 9U Servers (4 x 2U + 1 x 1U), 2U NAS, 2U Switches (VMware Backend), 25U Free | Rack 2 = 4U Core Switch, 2U Routher, 1U WiFi Controller, 1U Smoothwall Appliance, 1U Virgin Switch, 1U Fibre Converter, 11U Fibre Cables, 8U Cable Management Arms.
    10) 3 x 16Amp Commando Connectors, not sure how much power is used
    11) Unknown
    12) Heavy!!!!!!
    13) Unknown, we have 1 x moderate size AC
    Last edited by aleach2; 22nd November 2012 at 06:19 PM.

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    3. 5m x 3m x 2m (length x width x height)
    4. No
    5. It has already been designated as the server room, but only within the last few years does it tick all boxes
    6. 3
    7. Can't remember
    8. 3 x 19" x 42Ux 1200)
    9. Off the top of my head, can't think
    10. Don't know
    11. Don't know
    12. Don't know
    13. Don't know

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    Cripes.

    1. S
    2. ~2400
    3. We have two server rooms, a primary and a 'backup'. P is ~3m*5m, B is ~3*2.5 (but is a wierd shape).
    4. (presume you mean room). Not really, although some surplus stuff lingers too long until I nag.
    5. School predates technology so they are both conversions.
    6. 4 in primary, 1 in secondary but soon to expand to 2.
    7. No idea.
    8. 4 * 42U 19" 1200 inm primary, 1 24/27U in backup.

    I need to check to answer the rest with any degree of accuracy!

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    @GrumbleDook: quite a few replies have indicated in reply 12 that the loaded rack is HEAVY [my reply included] and @twin--turbo mentioned a consideration not included in your post: server Room location: Ground floor or first floor?

    Our Server Room is located on the first floor and although our loaded rack is heavy it is not a 'threat' to the floor. This may not be true for all schools?

    [Our Finance Department has a safe that certainly could not be located on our upper floors]

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveP View Post
    @GrumbleDook: quite a few replies have indicated in reply 12 that the loaded rack is HEAVY [my reply included] and @twin--turbo mentioned a consideration not included in your post: server Room location: Ground floor or first floor?

    Our Server Room is located on the first floor and although our loaded rack is heavy it is not a 'threat' to the floor. This may not be true for all schools?

    [Our Finance Department has a safe that certainly could not be located on our upper floors]
    I'm not so much worried about which floor the server room is in for this survey ... that question was mainly to give examples weights so that the consideration of threat to raised floors ... not that many schools have raised floors in their server rooms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glennda View Post
    This is for my previous school

    1. Secondary
    2. 1600
    3. 3 x 4
    4. no
    5. Yes built out of old store room.
    6. 3 (was 4)
    7. HP
    8. 19" 42U 1200
    9. rack 1 4U UPS - Rest Servers 4U San 1U Fiber Switch. Rack 2 - Switching and Patch panels Rack 3. Servers, KVM and routers. 1 x B500 free standing ups
    10. B500 is 3 phase 32 amp, APC SUA10000 - 32amp 3 phase
    11. not a clue
    12. A lot
    13. Don't know but had two large Daikin Air con units for the room kept at 19 degrees.
    Should have also said there was a second "backup room" which consisted of 2 x 42U racks - on with patch and switching in, the second with 8u of servers storing onsite backup (1 x 4U 36bay 32TB backup server 1 x HP DL380, 1 x HP MSA60).

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumbleDook View Post
    ... that question was mainly to give examples weights so that the consideration of threat to raised floors ... not that many schools have raised floors in their server rooms.
    For clarity we do not have a raised floor [false floor] in our sever room.

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    Going back to the dark ages of mainframes... weight of equipment was rarely a threat to the raised floor. There was too much cable underneath holding it up. We rarely reused cabling as kit changed. It was left in place and new cables laid under the floor where we could find room!

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    If you want distant schools:
    1 PMJ
    2 500
    3 2M by 5M by 3M high
    4 some computer parts/spares as it is secure
    5 was storage
    6 1 x 42u - full
    7 hp
    8 19" rails, 42u, umm - standard four post
    9 5u UPS, 9U Server, 2U San, 1U Ruckus, 5U phonesystem, 4U switching, rest is patch pannels
    10 16A
    11 don't know
    12 heavy
    13 can't remember

    1 PJ
    2 500
    3 4M by 5M by 2.5M high
    4 some computer parts/spares as it is secure
    5 dedicated
    6 2 x 42u - full
    7 hp
    8 19" rails, 42u, umm - standard four post
    9 11u UPS, 17U Server, 2U San, 5U phonesystem, 7U switching, rest is patch pannels, about 20u free
    10 32A+ 16A
    11 don't know
    12 heavy
    13 can't remember

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    3. 6' x 6' x sloping roof (approx 4' at its lowest to 8')
    4. Photocopier and general storage
    5. No. Servers just put where there was space
    6. Zero. 2 servers, but neither are rack mounts. Switches, etc are in cabinets wall mounted high in rooms around the school.
    7. HP
    8. Roughly 20" x9" footprint each
    9. Don't know
    10. Don't know
    11. Don't know
    12. Don't know
    13. What air con?

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    Interesting survey. There seem to be a number of similarities (as well as differences) between schools. For instance, Toner storage. Are we all under the mis-guided believe that the Air Con is somehow beneficial to the powder .

    A couple of other questions do naturally flow from this if we were to compare IT structure between schools.

    > How many use the server room as an office? (I did at my last school for about a year until teachers were booted out the office opposite).
    > How many NM's share an office with other IT staff, or do you have your own? (I've just got my very own office for the first time this year! )
    > How far away from the server room is your office? (Previously I was in the next room, techs still are. I'm now half a corridor away but was nearly moved to the other side of the school)
    > Do you have a secondary/back up server room? (We have a wall mount cabinet with a 2U NAS box in a remote cupboard)

    but the question that made me think of this reply...

    >Whose setup's pre-date them as a NM?

    Mine does. Oh, I've completely change the servers, added storage, virtualisation, etc. But the actual racks, switches, electrics, cabling, room, etc, all pre-date me and might even pre-date my predecessor!

    Just for completeness, my server room is also on the first floor and the cabinets are both free standing (UPS's along make them unmovable), they are not secured to the walls, floor, ceiling in any way as far as I know,

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmcd35 View Post
    Interesting survey. There seem to be a number of similarities (as well as differences) between schools. For instance, Toner storage. Are we all under the mis-guided believe that the Air Con is somehow beneficial to the powder .
    Lol, no. Its actually pretty detrimental, as when the A/C unit breaks down and leaks all over the boxes it isn't good. Its just a space thing for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmcd35 View Post
    > How many NM's share an office with other IT staff, or do you have your own? (I've just got my very own office for the first time this year! )
    Would not want my own office. We work as a team, we discuss issues during work flow. Having to go to another office would be detreimental to day to day operation and development.

    Rob

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