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    Are M$ worried schools are not going to like Win8?

    Just saw this on El Reg:

    Microsoft offers cut-price Win 8 PCs and fondletops to UK schools

    30% off Acer, Asus and RM PC's and tablets for students and teachers. Sounds like a bit or bribery to generate interest in an unloved OS to me. Are MS worried that schools, in the majority, would stick with Win 7? Or worse still actually consider Android/iOS devices?

    Still, might be a good deal for some (shame about the brands).

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    Yep its gonna fail, time to discount before anyone notices!!

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    Considering we all ignored Vista, and we're all counting on Windows 9 being our next replacement, they either don't care or don't see history repeating.

    I get the impression that they've got so worked up on grabbing the touch market with tablets that they've not seen the bigger picture.

    The thing is that we and business have been shouting this for some time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmcd35 View Post
    (shame about the brands).
    Have you seen the Acer iconia tablets? I know it doesn't stop them being acer, but very nice pieces of hardware!

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    It's not a new strategy, get 'em hooked young and they'll keep using Microsoft products. However, Windows is becoming less relevant with the plethora of non-Windows devices the kids are seeing these days. This in turn is feeding the trend towards platform-agnostic applications/cloud apps.

    Then again, I may be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jinnantonnixx View Post
    It's not a new strategy, get 'em hooked young and they'll keep using Microsoft products. However, Windows is becoming less relevant with the plethora of non-Windows devices the kids are seeing these days. This in turn is feeding the trend towards platform-agnostic applications/cloud apps.

    Then again, I may be wrong.
    Its very true, just looking at dreamspark and office 365 education proves it

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    The next year's worth of updates for Windows 8 will be very important for Microsoft. As it stands, Windows 8 is not suitable for schools in my view. If they can fix piles of the issues by next summer, then they *may* have a chance of selling some to schools. If not, then schools are simply going to ignore it and wait for Windows 9.

    Things to fix:

    1. Management of RT
    2. Proxies in 'Metro' UI

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmcd35 View Post
    Sounds like a bit or bribery
    Just like the promotions other manufacturers do then? e.g. HP, Samsung. Toshiba etc.

    Clearly any form of discount is bad when it involves a Windows laptop or Microsoft OS? We should all be forced to pay full price!

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    Sounds more like 3 desperate \ unloved manufacturers doing a deal with MS to try and shift some of their hardware which is being overshadowed by much better products from the likes of Samsung and now MS themselves.

    I'm very interested in Win8 tablets but not at 1000 a piece for Surface Pros and not for hardware that doesn't have the quality or design to last in an educational environment. Have to admit thus far the hardware offering from a value for money perspective has been quite disappointing, hopefully within a month or two some decent kit will start to be released.
    Last edited by gshaw; 8th November 2012 at 12:48 PM.

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    Discounting is all very well, but schools have to conserve their pennies. They can make a product as cheap a they like, but if it doesn't do what what we need it to do then we won't buy it!

    We're very good at extending the life of what we have until we find something that actually works and that we can afford!

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    From what I can gather, this is part of a long planned strategy with equivalent programmes in other countries too.

    Shape The Future is part of a well establish project to close the gap between rich and poor when it comes to accessing kit. Similar schemes have been things like "Get Online".

    They could have done this at any point in the next year but it makes sense to tie it into the existing marketing strategy used to raise the profile of Windows 8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elsiegee40 View Post
    Discounting is all very well, but schools have to conserve their pennies. They can make a product as cheap a they like, but if it doesn't do what what we need it to do then we won't buy it!

    We're very good at extending the life of what we have until we find something that actually works and that we can afford!
    The aim is for these to be personal devices which can be used within schools as part of 1:1 schemes.

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    would be nice if we could get off xp....... ;p

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    Government-funded schools have become eligible to receive Windows 8 Intel-based laptops and tablets from Asus, Acer and RM Education that are loaded with software and that have had 30 per cent shaved off the RRP. Machines are for the personal use of students and teachers.
    So these are the Intel based tablets. Nice, I hope that it will be the Pro version of W8 they ship with.
    Also I notice that the article says that these devices will come pre-loaded with software, it'll be interesting to see just what packages these are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    The next year's worth of updates for Windows 8 will be very important for Microsoft. As it stands, Windows 8 is not suitable for schools in my view. If they can fix piles of the issues by next summer, then they *may* have a chance of selling some to schools. If not, then schools are simply going to ignore it and wait for Windows 9.
    Most schools will do just that, and MS know it.
    Other schools will just move on to something else.
    MS isn't the only solution like it was ten years ago..

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