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    toyota production system in the nhs?

    Why have so few hospitals implemeted the toyota production system for service environment as it delivers money saving and service improvements?

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    lol I was thinking that I wouldnt want to be operated, diagnosed, poked and prodded by production line robots, no caring or empathy there (Ironic to add that bit I know given some of the NHS stuff you see)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rich_tech View Post
    lol I was thinking that I wouldnt want to be operated, diagnosed, poked and prodded by production line robots, no caring or empathy there (Ironic to add that bit I know given some of the NHS stuff you see)
    Then again, you don't have to worry about them self-medicating and becoming addicted to painkillers... and they won't get drunk on the job.

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    TPS does not have to involve robots and also they treat parts better than patients in the NHS.

    We also need this in the nhs empowering every worker to halt the process at the first sign of a glitch or an imperfection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by X-13 View Post
    Then again, you don't have to worry about them self-medicating and becoming addicted to painkillers... and they won't get drunk on the job.
    Or sharing your medical details over facebook..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garacesh View Post
    Or sharing your medical details over facebook..
    Unless somewhere in the code is a "share to facebook" option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rich_tech View Post
    lol I was thinking that I wouldnt want to be operated, diagnosed, poked and prodded by production line robots, no caring or empathy there (Ironic to add that bit I know given some of the NHS stuff you see)
    I'm sure I've been attended to by some humans with a lesser bedside manner than the aforementioned robots...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicholab View Post
    Why have so few hospitals implemeted the toyota production system for service environment as it delivers money saving and service improvements?
    Where would you apply this in the NHS?

    If it's patient care then think of the NHS as more of a body/repair shop rather than a production line. I don't believe that the Just-in-Time system would be suitable. Back in January I ordered a new car for March delivery and I specified a DAB radio rather than the standard model. The car was still delivered a week late*. About twenty years ago my brother-in-law had kidney failure and was on dialysis for several years until a suitable donor was found. He was flown from his home on the Isle of Man to Liverpool where the transplant took place.TB is on the rise again, we've had AIDS and appear to have ridden out the SARS storm, but the next global pandemic could be right around the corner. How does the Toyota Production Model deal with that?

    *Incidentally, my eldest daughter was born a week or so late, a difficult birth for my wife, but she had all her limbs (but we knew this from the scans) and seemed fine if not a little grumpy. If anyone thinks getting pregnant is the closest we humans get to a production line, then the analogy doesn't bear scrutiny. Scans and tests could have indicated Downs or physical deformities. On a production line you don't often have to make life or death choices.

    If I have the wrong end of the stick then it's because I've misinterpreted what you were trying to say. I've a lousy cold and I can't sleep and your post floated to the top of my mind. My eldest daughter is now a doctor and I suppose there's some paternal instinct at play here as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beeswax View Post
    How does the Toyota Production Model deal with that?
    Kill the sick to protect the humans.

    Come on, this is psychotic A.I 101.

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