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    Welcome to December 31st 1999

    Nice one Sony!

    I thought i'd just send a few PSN messages to a few of my friends and couldn't sign into the playstation network. So i dig through the settings only to find that my PS3's clock is messed up and won't reset even when set manually.

    After a quick search, i came across this: PlayStation Network down, so are lots of PS3s (update) -- Engadget

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    Well at least you can party like it's 1999

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    The scary stupid thing is they only need to test 5 dates to confirm the service will work for <24 years!
    Thats when its silly, its not like its not simple for them to test.

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    You'd think the PS3 would store the date/time in a chip powered by a watch battery. Essentially how PCs work, but then they periodically check in with a Time Server.

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    One theory:
    The going theory is that the PS3 is storing some form of date in GMT, then modifying that to get whatever you see in the on-screen clock. That modification process seems to be fine--the system can take 2/28/2010, 9PM GMT, add four hours, and get 3/1/2010, 1AM random time zone.

    What's apparently effed, as speculation goes, is when the internal GMT-tracking rolls over to 3/1. It's either not rolling, or rolling to 2/29, at which point a system tries to add/subtract from 2/29, which it can't do because the front-end calendar doesn't have a 2/29/2010, and shit explodes. Seemed to happen around 4PM PDT, which I think is 12AM GMT, so.

    And the PS3 launched in 2006; it's hit 4 2/28s so far. 2007 and 2009 were odd-numbered years; 2008 was an even, and a leap year. 2010 is the first even non-leap-year the system's been around for. If some sort of base-level math is choking on itself, it may have ruled out the odd 2007 and 2009 successfully, but is convinced the even 2010 is a leap year (this part I'm less sure of, but is why leap year could theoretically come into play at some point.)
    Which implys that it does have an internal clock, thats the problem. If your ps3 was not on when the date rolled over the internal clock did it for you and that borked the system date.
    Its a bit of a joke sony let this happen, they are getting so much more shody in recent years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroHour View Post
    One theory:

    Which implys that it does have an internal clock, thats the problem. If your ps3 was not on when the date rolled over the internal clock did it for you and that borked the system date.
    Its a bit of a joke sony let this happen, they are getting so much more shody in recent years.
    Interesting theory, I have an original PS3 and was watching a DVD on it last night from around 10pm til somewhere around the 1am spot, didn't notice any problems last night but I'll have a closer look when I get in, see if having it switched on at the rollover has let this problem slip me by...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshJohnson View Post
    Interesting theory, I have an original PS3 and was watching a DVD on it last night from around 10pm til somewhere around the 1am spot, didn't notice any problems last night but I'll have a closer look when I get in, see if having it switched on at the rollover has let this problem slip me by...
    I am pretty sure my one was on during the GMT changeover so I will check mine tonight too.

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    Turned my one on yesterday to watch Beerfest DVD, didn't notice anything wrong with the system, will have to check tonight I guess to make sure everything is ok I guess

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    After doing a bit more digging around it seems to be only the Phat PS3s that have the issue.

    The Slim ones seem to be fine though

    edit - even setting the time manually has no effect so i guess it's a firmware bug

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    Ahh, I've got a slim one Guess I'm all ok than :P

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    Ive got a slim and played a quick game of burnout last night, noticed it wouldnt log into PSN but wasnt a big deal at the time as I was playing offline

    Oh well, no MW2 for a few days then

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    Oh dear, another reason to be an Xbox 360 person, Microsoft don't have these problems

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    Quote Originally Posted by john View Post
    Oh dear, another reason to be an Xbox 360 person, Microsoft don't have these problems
    As an owner of both consoles, I'm more than happy to pay for the service I get with Xbox Live and very disappointed with PSN despite the fact it's free. It's just a case of you get what you pay for I suppose...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidewinder View Post
    Ive got a slim and played a quick game of burnout last night, noticed it wouldnt log into PSN but wasnt a big deal at the time as I was playing offline

    Oh well, no MW2 for a few days then
    I was signed into PSN last night, had a few games of Resistance 2 and worked ok

    However PSN has been very flaky lately, signing me and out willy nilly.

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    I have an fat 80GB machine. I didn't use mine last night as i decided to watch some red dwarf instead.

    I will check tonight to see if i can sign in. Might have a quick (4 hours usually) blast on Killzone 2

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