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    Quote Originally Posted by tmcd35 View Post
    Really, really silly question (which I'm not sure actually matters too much given the current state of Linux Steam games) but...

    Is VirtualBox's OpenGL 3D support going to up to the job? Surely this should be dual-booted on a rig with a reasonable GPU/CPU/RAM combination rather than run in a VM?
    Personally, I'm just interested to see how the OS works, won't be doing any serious gaming on it for the time being, virtual machine will do for that

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    Here's the SteamOS (beta) download link.

    Build your own Steam Machine

    SteamOS Hardware Requirements
    Processor: Intel or AMD 64-bit capable processor
    Memory: 4GB or more RAM
    Hard Drive: 500GB or larger disk
    Video Card: NVIDIA graphics card (AMD and Intel graphics support coming soon!)
    Additional: UEFI boot support
    USB port for installation
    What is SteamOS?
    SteamOS is a fork (derivative) of Debian GNU/Linux. The first version (SteamOS 1.0) is called 'alchemist' and it is based on the Debian 'wheezy' (stable 7.1) distribution.

    The major changes made in SteamOS are:
    • Backported eglibc 2.17 from Debian testing
    • Added various third-party drivers and updated graphics stack (Intel and AMD graphics support still being worked on)
    • Updated kernel tracking the 3.10 longterm branch (currently 3.10.11)
    • Custom graphics compositor designed to provide a seamless transition between Steam, its games and the SteamOS system overlay
    • Configured to auto-update from the Valve SteamOS repositories
    Custom Debian Installer (1.0 GB)
    Code:
    http://repo.steampowered.com/download/SteamOSInstaller.zip
    
    SHA-1: 5d7fc1b28d64cce67df8f859b57a362db52c91c6
    System Restore Image (2.4 GB)
    Code:
    http://repo.steampowered.com/download/SYSRESTORE.zip
    
    SHA-1: e2ac7bc1882dba4d5f6a0a1c03123e45ff6e599e


    The link below contains instructions on how to get the SteamOS installer working on non-UEFI PCs and Virtualbox.

    http://w3.reddit.com/r/SteamOS/comme..._with_steamos/
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    Install SteamOS on VirtualBox

    ^ Not sure it's worth it TBH.

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    Frankly I'm likely to wait a little longer. The big selling point of SteamBox/OS to me is streaming, i.e. using a non-powerful machine to stream from my main system. As it stands, there's no benefit with SteamOS in it's current state to using a gaming PC with Windows and steam in big picture mode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by synaesthesia View Post
    As it stands, there's no benefit with SteamOS in it's current state to using a gaming PC with Windows and steam in big picture mode.
    I recall that valve did some research a year or so back and concluded they could get their games running faster on Ubuntu/opengl than on windows. That was presumably done without all of the gaming centered kernel tweaks that they've done for steamos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd View Post
    I recall that Valve did some research a year or so back and concluded they could get their games running faster on Ubuntu/OpenGL than on Windows.
    The difference between the two OSs in Left 4 Dead 2 wasn't that great however (315 fps vs 303.4 fps). Windows gamers aren't going to worry about 11.6 fps when the game is running at over 300 fps.

    After this work, Left 4 Dead 2 is running at 315 FPS on Linux. That the Linux version runs faster than the Windows version (270.6) seems a little counter-intuitive, given the greater amount of time we have spent on the Windows version. However, it does speak to the underlying efficiency of the kernel and OpenGL. Interestingly, in the process of working with hardware vendors we also sped up the OpenGL implementation on Windows. Left 4 Dead 2 is now running at 303.4 FPS with that configuration. (Source)

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    I'd expect steamos to be faster than stock Ubuntu especially on dedicated hardware because they are free to include specific patches to make things run better.

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    That's entirely moot - I know that as well as a linux gamer. I mean for day to day use, that's where a steambox's use lies for me; streaming games from a powerful box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur View Post
    Think it'd be easier to build a rig :P

    I73930k, 16gb 2011mhz gskill ram, 500gb ssd (maybe), mobo and fan i'm unsure about... psu too, unsure... case... hmmm... NZXT or Coolmaster full tower.

    Gfx, 690 :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd View Post
    I'd expect SteamOS to be faster than stock Ubuntu especially on dedicated hardware because they are free to include specific patches to make things run better.

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