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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur View Post
    Considering the game streaming feature is limited to Windows PCs and Mac's, you might as well get one of those cheap (~£100?) Steam Boxes, connect that to a TV and build your own/upgrade your existing gaming PC.
    I was just thinking about a pre built gaming machine that can run things well and that doesn't require I sell organs to afford.

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    Why has noone batted an eyelid at the case?
    Am I the only one thinking "Holy Mother of " - an i7 4770 and Titan, with 1TB SSHD in a 12"x12"x3" case?
    That did cross my mind, but if it's laid out properly it should be fine. [Heat wise]

    Even though the Titan is taller than the case, I'm sure Valve thought of that.

    The thing I was worried about was a Titan running off of a 500w PSU. I thought it needed 650-700w to run properly.

    Le EDIT: woops, it's a 450w PSU. Even worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by synaesthesia View Post
    Why has no one batted an eyelid at the case?
    It doesn't seem particularly noteworthy IMO. Falcon Northwest's Tiki Gaming PC is only a bit bigger (WxDxH: 4" x 13.6" x 13") and it has even better specs. If you removed the 2 x SSDs, optical drive, granite base and redesigned it slightly it would be smaller still.

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    Furry muff. The PSU doesn't worry me, 450w is ample yes even including a titan with the correct considerations. Quality over quantity in much case but as said above, no doubt they've thought of everything.


    That Falcon machine looks pretty nifty though Is that the same Falcon that used to punt "specialist" gear back in the 90's? (For some reason I seem to remember only 2 sets of adverts in the old Computer Shopper mags, the Aries ones with green and black stripes and Falcon.

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    My first thought - nVidia, that'll do wonders for the uptake of AMD's Mantle API...

    Second thought- $675(£421, PS4 money). I wonder how an i3 (dual core?) and GTX660 compare, even with 16Gb Ram.

    Third thought - Is that 6Ghz GDDR5, or 6Gb GDDR5? One news story was listing that as Gb. (or did they say 3Gb VRAM in all?)

    Final thought - are the consoles themselves definately user upgradable, or are the parts soldered down? I only ask because reports of video ram seem alot for a GTX660 - so non standard parts, and people are already pointing out the size of a GTX Titan.

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    Looking at the specs, again, like @X-13 i'm terribly worried about the 450w psu. I'd expect a 800w.

    Then we move onto the specs... for £1000...

    Let me see what i can match it with:-

    Processor:- I7 3930k £200-£250 on ebay
    Motherboard:- Sabertooth 2011 socket £200 ebay
    Ram:- Trindent X 2133mhz 8gb £180 ebay
    Psu:- Ocz 850w / Nzxt 850w Modular £140
    Gfx (the most expensive mother of a gun for this whole rig):- Take your pic, but your looking at about £300+

    That comes to.... around £1070 with a nice gfx. Yes the Titan is a god given GFX, but for the power your getting overall from the rig above, to the tiki, it's damn well worth it. Yes i know i've left out some ssds, but that's mainly because i don't know what the preference would be (ie 80gb boot drive and 1tb mechanical disk or?)

    Just throw the Steam OS on it, and you're good to go.
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    That PSU is fine, so long as it is a high quality supply. I have a 600W in my PC and have no issues. No need for huge PSUs, just good quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunnyknight View Post
    Looking at the specs, again, like @X-13 i'm terribly worried about the 450w psu. I'd expect a 800w.
    Valve know what they are doing. It's a non-issue.

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    We'll see how it goes, but that's my thoughts on it anyway. I'll buy one, but i may also end up building another rig should it not be... geedede

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    Even without adding in the case and controller to @Sunnyknight's spec (above) that kind of price, for a gaming only rig, bothers me as an up front fee. If I saw the availability of AAA titles I want to play, like Watch_Dogs, and was convinced by the long term support of the platform (as in a system I buy today won't be out dated in 3yrs because the specs have moved on) then I'd put £800 as my upper limit, all in, for the hardware. And that's double PS4's intial outlay.

    I'm not convinced that this is a serious continder to PS4 ot XB1. What it is is a "first steps", a bit like the original XBox - Microsoft never intended it to grab a large market share, just lay the groundwork for future releases. If it takes off and they prove themselves then this is a PS5/XBox4524245 killer.

    I'll keep my eye on it. Could be a mid gen purchase in 2-4 years time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunnyknight View Post
    Looking at the specs, again, like @X-13 i'm terribly worried about the 450w psu. I'd expect a 800w.
    There's no need to go that high...

    I think the reason PC gamers go for higher wattage on PSUs is because, if you get a bad quality one, that 800w beast could only be maxing out at 500w.

    The fact it's an 80+ Gold PSU should mean that 450w gets you 450w.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur View Post
    Valve know what they are doing. It's a non-issue.
    I hope they can get massive discounts on hardware because they're buying large amounts. A Titan an sub-Titan prices would be awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    Not sure about the touch pad idea.

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    Aye seems like it works rather well. May take some getting used to, especially for someone that rarely uses a controller (watch me play GTA on an xbox pad, it's hiliarious!)

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    What do you reckon to this?

    We play with the Steam Machine, Valve's game console of the future « The Verge



    This is Valve's Steam Machine prototype and SteamOS (hands-on) « Engadget

    SteamOS looks and acts like Big Picture Mode, except it's the basis for the entire hardware system. It's controller-friendly and easy to navigate. The same Steam splash page washes across the screen when it launches, and the same tile-based layout of games and the Steam store are visible at launch. As promised, the OS is built on Linux (not based on Ubuntu, we're told, but entirely custom), though you'd never know it as the only interactive layer is all Steam.

    That means it also has the limitations of Steam: SteamOS is not the replacement for Windows 8 you've been waiting for. Beyond basics like browsing the web, there's little in the way of standard OS functions. While Valve reps showed off slides of the box's vanity shots using a Windows PC, I asked how I'd view such shots from within SteamOS -- the answer is that there's no real way to do so, as there's no file browsing system or image viewing application. While these limitations may not affect the vast majority of Steam Machine buyers (who are essentially buying a game console), it certainly impacts folks who are looking at Steam Machines as a replacement for their standard PC. Make no mistake: Steam Machines are PCs posing as game consoles, which comes with both positives and negatives.






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    I've been throwing my money at the screen with no luck unfortunately. I don't know if it's because £2.45 isn't quite enough or i don't have a cash payment feature.


    Entirely off topic and unrelated, any ideas for removing coin shaped dents from LCD screens?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur View Post
    What do you reckon to this?
    Marriage between humans and computers is legal, right?



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