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    I've still got a 1st gen JPN PS3 that is 95% BC with PS2. All the decent PS2 games that I previously played are superseded by later versions in the games series. The odd classic (MGS3) gets a HD update that most of the time is worth it. I miss FF12, but that's it.

    BC isn't a system seller, just a bonus that devalues over time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonofsanta View Post
    How many times do you own Ocarina of Time?

    I said that to myself as I was typing it... and the answer is 3. [5 if you count master quest as a separate copy.]

    Quote Originally Posted by Theblacksheep View Post
    All the decent PS2 games that I previously played are superseded by later versions in the games series.
    Graphically, possibly.

    But unless they contain the entirety of the story, you need the previous games to fully know what's going on. [Or in the case of Kingdom Hearts, to actually understand the story.]
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    Quote Originally Posted by X-13 View Post
    I don't like companies expecting me to pay out over and over again for the same thing. Plus, it smacks of yet another company thinking the game is licenced and not owned.
    I think the general argument is - you bought the game to play on your existing consoles, keep your existing console and you can continue to play the game without paying extra.

    To be fair to Sony, at this stage they haven't announced exactly how Gaikai is going to work for BC so we don't know how good or bad a deal it's going to be. Could be as simple as detect your existing game disc and it'll stream the game? or pay a small monthly subscription and get access to every game ever made for the past three consoles? or it might be the expected fleecing - repurchase old games to access the streamed version...

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-13 View Post
    I said that to myself as I was typing it... and the answer is 3. [5 if you count master quest as a separate copy.]



    Graphically, possibly.

    But unless they contain the entirety of the story, you need the previous games to fully know what's going on. [Or in the case of Kingdom Hearts, to actually understand the story.]
    Depends what type of game they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-13 View Post
    I said that to myself as I was typing it... and the answer is 3. [5 if you count master quest as a separate copy.]



    Graphically, possibly.

    But unless they contain the entirety of the story, you need the previous games to fully know what's going on. [Or in the case of Kingdom Hearts, to actually understand the story.]
    Depends what type of game they are.

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    Just to let you all know that the live event has now started, lets see what Microsoft really has to offer!

    http://uk.ign.com/videos/2013/05/21/...tent=469477237
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    Here it is folks! the Xbox One!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordyboy View Post
    Here it is folks! A black Wii!
    Fixed.

    You know what... I'm out.

    It's supposed to be a GAMES CONSOLE not a tv tuner. [All I've heard so far is TV, TV, TV.]

    Oh look games... Sports, sports, more sports and a cutscene with cars.

    Oh wait... Back to TV.

    Halo... TV series... wut. Get your priorities straight.

    Oh, A PREMIUM TV series. Stay classy Microsoft.

    And back to sports...

    OOOOOH... Call of Doody. How about something NEW?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by X-13 View Post
    Fixed.

    You know what... I'm out.

    It's supposed to be a GAMES CONSOLE not a tv tuner. [All I've heard so far is TV, TV, TV.]

    Oh look games... Sports, sports, more sports and a cutscene with cars.

    Oh wait... Back to TV.

    Halo... TV series... wut. Get your priorities straight.

    Oh, A PREMIUM TV series. Stay classy Microsoft.

    And back to sports...

    OOOOOH... Call of Doody. How about something NEW?!
    Get out of my brain!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMcGuigan View Post
    Get out of my brain!
    NEVER!

    HE KEEPS SAYING "DOODY"! [gamers are immature? getoutta here]

    02:24:40 - still no gameplay...

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    It reminds me of a VCR from the 80's.



    The 500GB HDD is going to fill up fast too.









    Hyper-V on a console!

    ... the next-generation Xbox will run three operating systems simultaneously. Complementing Windows 8 and RT on PCs and tablets, there'll be a third distinct version of Microsoft's operating system that has been pared down specifically for the new console. This will be the main system OS used to run apps such as Skype and other non-game titles downloaded from the Xbox storefront. At the same time, virtualization technology similar to Microsoft's Hyper-V will be used to allocate the bulk of system resources to a second, dedicated "Xbox OS" when the user loads up a game. This game OS will remain a fixed entity throughout the life of the console, so that game developers can be confident their games will run regardless of how much the Windows side of the machine gets updated. Finally, a third OS will work as a middle-man between the two, allowing the two sides of the console to talk to each other. (Source)
    ... and as expected it will not be backwards compatible.

    Xbox One will not be backwards compatible with Xbox 360 games
    "The system is based on a different core architecture, so back-compat doesn't really work from that perspective."

    Technologically speaking, it's not wholly a surprise that backwards compatibility is off the table. Today, the company confirmed months of rumors that the new Xbox would use an x86 CPU. Games designed for the Xbox 360's Xenon processor simply won't run natively on the new hardware, since the Xenon used a PowerPC architecture instead. Of course, Sony's PlayStation 4 has the same problem: Sony also chose to move to x86 from PowerPC, and the PS4 also won't directly support PS3 games.

    But while Sony is promising that PlayStation 4 users will indeed be able to play PlayStation 3 games at some point, by streaming them from the cloud, Microsoft is not promising any such thing for Xbox One. When we specifically asked Whitten whether the company had any streaming option or download option for existing Xbox 360 games for the Xbox One, he confirmed that there was no such thing in the works at Microsoft.

    Microsoft does, however, plan to keep selling the Xbox 360 alongside the new console for the foreseeable future. "This isn't about getting rid of the Xbox 360," Whitten said. Perhaps the lack of backwards compatibility will be good for business there. (Source)
    It looks like you won't be able to lend game discs to your friends.

    Microsoft's Xbox One will use Blu-ray discs for games, but you won't be using them as frequently as you might have with your PlayStation 3. In a statement made to Wired, Microsoft said that all games are installed to the Xbox One's hard drive to play; you won't have to insert the disc to run the game after that initial process.

    Prior to the Xbox One's official unveiling, rumors had flown for months that Microsoft's latest console would contain a mechanism to block used games. While Microsoft has so far stayed quiet on this particular point, the mandatory installation would seem to suggest that it may well be the case — at least to a certain extent.

    Microsoft has said that a fee would be charged for any game disc to be tied to a second Xbox Live account following its initial installation. This is likely to limit the market for second-hand games, but would not eliminate the possibility altogether. The company is yet to confirm whether players will be able to play games from the disc or run them on secondary accounts without paying for the installation, nor has it given any indication of what the fee may be. (Source)
    Here's a photo of the insides...

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    ERH MUH GERD - CoD HAZ DERGS! Day 1 purchase, right there.

    FFS.

    Oh yeah, it's all about the poly counts.

    And fish AI.

    Character customisation != innovative

    Get over yourself, Activision.

    "We're still 60 FPS"... PC >60 FPS. WAAAAAY more.


    [I'm lagging so much... I haven't gotten to specs yet. I'm still on CoD]

    Lol wut... Activision scanned a dog?!


    Someone needs to teach this guy what the word "gameplay" means... It's all cutscenes.


    Ok... apparently it's over. IGN has a bad stream. It kept skipping.

    Yeah, that was a lame announcement. Sony's was better, they actually had games.

    Xbox One - "We only have 1 game".
    Xbox One - Only one was sold.
    Xbox One - The one console to make you a PC gamer.
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    Console launch. All about the hardware, apps and the capabilities of the hardware and console. E3, the gaming expo, next month will be for the games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonah View Post
    Console launch. All about the hardware, apps and the capabilities of the hardware and console. E3, the gaming expo, next month will be for the games.
    Sony had games. This looked rushed.

    Plus, this was focused on ONE thing. TV. [At least from what I saw.]


    Also, and everyone seems to have forgotten this, IT'S A GAMES CONSOLE. It's pointless without games.

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    @Arthur - You summed this up perfectly! It was the first thing I thought about when I saw the picture....

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