Gaming Thread, Xbox One: Tomorrow's Announcement in Fun Stuff; Not packing the Kinect in sounds like the same kind of misstep as the cheapo Xbox 360 SKU - because ...
13th August 2013, 12:31 PM #421
Not packing the Kinect in sounds like the same kind of misstep as the cheapo Xbox 360 SKU - because of that SKU, developers couldn't rely on a HDD being present, and it gimped games for the duration of the generation. I don't think Kinect is as essential as a HDD, but with developers being able to rely on them being present, who knows what amazing ideas miught have come out - now Kinect 2 will continue to be as irrelevant and as gimmicky as the first version was, and it will never meet its full potential. It may well be more common, with being packed in the box of these early units, but still.
At this point I'm actually starting to wish MS would stick to their guns a bit and say "trust us, this will work out for the best." I know, damned if they do and damned if they don't, but all these changes are just making me more nervous about the Xbone.
13th August 2013, 12:35 PM #422
After all the 180s Microsoft has done you think it's illogical to drop a peripheral (previously mandatory) to make it cheaper, but you mention people being worried about NSA and Microsoft as the reason. Yep totally makes sense!
Originally Posted by ZeroHour
Still, you are repeatably calling the PS4 the PS3+ (despite having superior memory/cpu than the xboxone), so I at least know we're not having a sensible conversation.
6 years 9 months, 2 original sixaxis controllers still working, falling apart, but battery still works in both, even the one I spilt beer into.
Originally Posted by Ghostgame
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14th August 2013, 10:13 AM #423
Originally Posted by sonofsanta
21st August 2013, 11:41 AM #424
21st August 2013, 12:04 PM #425
They're really clutching at straws now aren't they..
21st August 2013, 12:07 PM #426
I think they are trying to justify that extra $100.
Would be better if they justified why we have to pay that extra for the kinect.
If they actually focused on doing that I think they would more easily persuaded the people on the fence to get an Xbox One
21st August 2013, 12:14 PM #427
PS4 + Camera = Same price as Xbox One with Kinect 2
21st August 2013, 12:24 PM #428
PS4 is still £30 cheaper even if you add the unnecessary camera...?
Originally Posted by JJonas
I'd hazard a daring guess that the attach rate of the PS4camera on day one will be less than 20%. Most people will save the £80 instead.
XBOXONE Wireless Controller charge kits are £20 each if you want to match up peripheral on pricing.
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21st August 2013, 12:24 PM #429
The whole price issue is still the same story with the 360 though isn't it? Last time I checked it was around £90 extra for the Kinect bundle console or just buying the sensor seperately..
21st August 2013, 12:39 PM #430
and they will have the same problem Microsoft had with Kinect 1 at least by forcing everybody to have Kinect 2 it will lead to greater support for it in future games
Originally Posted by Theblacksheep
I have Kinect 1 and I love the fact that I can talk to my console to find games its a natural next generation interface
21st August 2013, 02:22 PM #431
I actually want a Kinect 2, as long as I can turn it of, voice red without a headset, no more entering your lived password on the big screen when at a friends, face rec sign plus smartglass will be epic and seamless for all sorts of gaming plus you have a real controller and a virtual environment running windows apps for non gaming. I know the PS4 is more games focused but the xb1 will offer all those little extras that would probably be a nightmare on ps4. I am not buying one at launch as I want to see how well they stick to their guns but I will almost certainly buy one a couple of months later.
21st August 2013, 05:47 PM #432
thats all i can do with mine it seems designed for rooms that are bigger than my house and fifa14 thats a reason not to buy one imo
Originally Posted by JJonas
23rd August 2013, 09:56 AM #433
Thinking about it, it's a shame they've U-Turned the Kinect requirement. I would've gone out and bought the Xbox 180 just so everyone at Microsoft and GCHQ/NSA can watch me on the sofa playing the Playstation 4.
23rd August 2013, 11:05 AM #434
Turns out they didn't really U-turn on it, and that the Xbox and Kinect 2 will never be sold separately: 'Xbox One is Kinect,' so don't expect one without the other | News | TechRadar
Still not sorted out their mixed messages problem, then.
23rd August 2013, 02:54 PM #435
Seriously, why on earth are people still going to buy it after all these changes and uncertainties? I wouldn't trust this console/M$ with a 50ft barge pole now, because what's to stop them U-Turning again during retail.
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