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    Not packing the Kinect in sounds like the same kind of misstep as the cheapo Xbox 360 SKU - because of that SKU, developers couldn't rely on a HDD being present, and it gimped games for the duration of the generation. I don't think Kinect is as essential as a HDD, but with developers being able to rely on them being present, who knows what amazing ideas miught have come out - now Kinect 2 will continue to be as irrelevant and as gimmicky as the first version was, and it will never meet its full potential. It may well be more common, with being packed in the box of these early units, but still.

    At this point I'm actually starting to wish MS would stick to their guns a bit and say "trust us, this will work out for the best." I know, damned if they do and damned if they don't, but all these changes are just making me more nervous about the Xbone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroHour View Post
    Pure guessing and illogical. As years go on it gets cheaper ANYWAY to produce. This I suspect us more to prevent launch issues and for those who were worried Microsoft/NSA actually wanted to monitor them.
    After all the 180s Microsoft has done you think it's illogical to drop a peripheral (previously mandatory) to make it cheaper, but you mention people being worried about NSA and Microsoft as the reason. Yep totally makes sense!

    Still, you are repeatably calling the PS4 the PS3+ (despite having superior memory/cpu than the xboxone), so I at least know we're not having a sensible conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonofsanta View Post
    At this point I'm actually starting to wish MS would stick to their guns a bit and say "trust us, this will work out for the best." I know, damned if they do and damned if they don't, but all these changes are just making me more nervous about the Xbone.
    Agreed

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    News: Pre-order Xbox One and you'll get a free copy of FIFA 14 - Xbox 360 - The Official Magazine

    no news on what happens if you pre-ordered Fifa 14 with your Xbox One

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    They're really clutching at straws now aren't they..

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    I think they are trying to justify that extra $100.

    Would be better if they justified why we have to pay that extra for the kinect.
    If they actually focused on doing that I think they would more easily persuaded the people on the fence to get an Xbox One

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    PS4 + Camera = Same price as Xbox One with Kinect 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJonas View Post
    PS4 + Camera = Same price as Xbox One with Kinect 2
    PS4 is still 30 cheaper even if you add the unnecessary camera...?

    I'd hazard a daring guess that the attach rate of the PS4camera on day one will be less than 20%. Most people will save the 80 instead.

    XBOXONE Wireless Controller charge kits are 20 each if you want to match up peripheral on pricing.
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    The whole price issue is still the same story with the 360 though isn't it? Last time I checked it was around 90 extra for the Kinect bundle console or just buying the sensor seperately..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theblacksheep View Post
    PS4 is still 30 cheaper...?

    I'd hazard a guess the attach rate of the PS4 camera on day one will be less than 20%.
    and they will have the same problem Microsoft had with Kinect 1 at least by forcing everybody to have Kinect 2 it will lead to greater support for it in future games

    I have Kinect 1 and I love the fact that I can talk to my console to find games its a natural next generation interface

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    I actually want a Kinect 2, as long as I can turn it of, voice red without a headset, no more entering your lived password on the big screen when at a friends, face rec sign plus smartglass will be epic and seamless for all sorts of gaming plus you have a real controller and a virtual environment running windows apps for non gaming. I know the PS4 is more games focused but the xb1 will offer all those little extras that would probably be a nightmare on ps4. I am not buying one at launch as I want to see how well they stick to their guns but I will almost certainly buy one a couple of months later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJonas View Post
    and they will have the same problem Microsoft had with Kinect 1 at least by forcing everybody to have Kinect 2 it will lead to greater support for it in future games

    I have Kinect 1 and I love the fact that I can talk to my console to find games its a natural next generation interface
    thats all i can do with mine it seems designed for rooms that are bigger than my house and fifa14 thats a reason not to buy one imo

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    Thinking about it, it's a shame they've U-Turned the Kinect requirement. I would've gone out and bought the Xbox 180 just so everyone at Microsoft and GCHQ/NSA can watch me on the sofa playing the Playstation 4.

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    Turns out they didn't really U-turn on it, and that the Xbox and Kinect 2 will never be sold separately: 'Xbox One is Kinect,' so don't expect one without the other | News | TechRadar

    Still not sorted out their mixed messages problem, then.

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    Seriously, why on earth are people still going to buy it after all these changes and uncertainties? I wouldn't trust this console/M$ with a 50ft barge pole now, because what's to stop them U-Turning again during retail.

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